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Posted 4/3/2017 1:52 PM (GMT 0)
I've read a lot in this forum about "herxing" in relation to whether someone is recovering from Lyme. Does this apply to everyone? I started treatment within ten days of my bite and had no symptoms other than a rash. I'm two weeks into it, and just switched to an LLMD a few days ago who added quite a bit to the protocol--but so far nothing except for being drowsy from the Doxy and Nystatin.

So, treating before symptoms even began, should I expect a "Herx" as I continue with the protocol?
Posted 4/3/2017 2:01 PM (GMT 0)
Not necessarily, no. I wouldn't think, anyway, if you go slow witb your treatments and you're on top of your detoxing, and your body has no trouble expelling the toxins.

Though, in my mind, if you're not experiencing something of a herx, there's a reason why. People who have been sick for awhile should have a sizable bacterial load. You should feel something, if things are dying off. You hear about people being deathly ill, herxing off a single drop of a tincture, etc.

Thing is, your infection is young, so could be different. I am not sure, actually. I am pretty sure it's recommended you treat for at least a month, because of the early mechanisms of the infection (sorry to be vague, can't remember the specifics).

Someone will be along soon to help better.

Stay on top of it, and you'll be fine. Congrats!
Posted 4/3/2017 2:18 PM (GMT 0)
Antonio said it well.

Not every one will herx.

Detox pathways being open and functioning well is a major part.

And as Antonio said, since you have a recent infection that has not had the time to infiltrate deep into body, your immune system may be keeping it in check.

Just keep doing what your doing 😊
Posted 4/3/2017 2:22 PM (GMT 0)
I went on restricted diet and did bath and acupuncture a month before starting doxy last week. I'm getting some lightheadedness and headaches, bad fatigue after 8 in the evening, and more feet pain in the morning, but otherwise not too bad. I just started full dose yesterday and will be adding in Tinizadole later this week. Going slow so hopefully that's helping. Trying to keep up with baths and acupuncture. Massage too every 2 or 3 weeks.
Posted 4/3/2017 2:49 PM (GMT 0)
I treated my lyme soon after my bite. I did antibiotics the first month and then went to herbs. I went slow on my herbs. I did not herx. However, I was a huge detoxing person way before I ever got lyme.

Hubby got lyme and he has not herxed either. He has only done herbs. He is almost without symptoms and we are feeling so hopeful.
Posted 4/3/2017 3:02 PM (GMT 0)
Also remember that herxing isn't actually a good thing as far as healing is concerned. What I mean by that is that herxing isn't healing and pushing through one, especially a bad one, reduces our bodies ability to heal and can be dangerous (has been known to be fatal in extreme circumstances).

If herxing is bad it is better to back down from treatment and increase detoxing. It may seem counterintuative, since we are aiming at treating ASAP, lol, but you will actually heal faster in the long run by allowing your body to recover.

Not herxing is therefore not a bad thing, if that makes sense??
Posted 4/3/2017 3:14 PM (GMT 0)
Well said silly sheep.

Herxing is being out of balance. You have more toxins in your body than you can eliminate.
Posted 4/3/2017 3:28 PM (GMT 0)
What everyone said is true.


Infection length, intensity, and immune function are key to herxing or strength of it. Also individual sensitivity to treatment products or methods varies and is something to consider.

It's possible you never will have a rough herx, but don't be surprised if at some point that changes if 'things' start clogging up.

It's GOOD that you're having an easier time so far, keep de-toxing, etc.
Posted 4/3/2017 4:12 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for all the responses. A lot of references to "detoxing"--what do you guys use for that? My doc gave me some herbs for cyst-busting and biofilm, but nothing for detox specifically. (Maybe she didn't think it necessary for my stage.)
Posted 4/3/2017 4:16 PM (GMT 0)
www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html

Pick and choose - but don't overdo the detoxing to begin with. You do one and add in another and slowly teach your body how to take care of toxins with some healthy stuff.

You can over do the detoxing right away and have a flood of toxins trying to come out.

So slowly add in one at a time.

I would start with the dry brushing. It is easy. Lemon water is easy and so is apple cider vinegar.

Just slow and steady wins this race.
Posted 4/3/2017 4:17 PM (GMT 0)
You started treatment ten days after the bite and only symptom was the rash - you caught it very early. I know several people who never experienced a herx when they treated right away.

A herx is when the toxins from die off accumulate faster than you can flush them out and create inflammation, etc

With catching it that soon - you likely didn't have a lot of die off (low bacteria load) and your body is able to keep up.

It is not necessary to herx to heal.
Posted 4/3/2017 4:22 PM (GMT 0)
Are you taking probiotics?

And something to support your liver?

Did the LLMD say how long you will be treated?
Posted 4/3/2017 6:31 PM (GMT 0)
Girlie nailed it. Also in my experiences for every 100 people i've talked to about chronic lyme 99 of them have some type of herx so to me its statistically insignificant to say some people don't herx.
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