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Posted 3/31/2017 10:20 PM (GMT 0)
Hey,
I would love some advice. Does anyone know anything about the abx Tinidiazole?
I have read this abx is especially good for Lyme but carries the possibility of cancer risk due to carcinogenic properties potentially.
Is this true or only in animal studies?

Any advice, guidance or help would be much appreciated.
Posted 3/31/2017 10:31 PM (GMT 0)
Well first - I want to mention that the studies showing bladder cancer in mice (or was it rats?) was done on Flagyl - which is the same class as Tinidazole...but still a different med...just similar.


Usually they give such very large doses when they do these studies.
...and yes I believe it was only animal studies...I haven't seen anything else.

It is concerning though...

I pulsed it only - couple days per week...
Posted 3/31/2017 10:42 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks Girlie!
Yes, from what I read it was Flagyl, which I do not intend to be on, and that consideration was transferred to tinidazole.

I found one human study that looked at users/non-users of Flagyl and compared the cancer risk. There was no association between users and a higher incidence of cancer 7 years after use.
Posted 3/31/2017 10:52 PM (GMT 0)
Hi jboy. I took Tinidazole continuously 10 days at a time once every month for 3 months. My doctor prescribed it after I suspected I couldn't tolerate Metronidazole. He doesn't pulse Meds.

Except for a metallic taste in my mouth I tolerated it well. =)
Posted 4/1/2017 12:04 AM (GMT 0)
My llmd feel lyme causes cancer ..says the risk it worth it ...only a few thing hit the cystic form ....gse ,flagyl, bee venom maybe rifampin. ..
Posted 4/1/2017 12:14 AM (GMT 0)
I'm a strong believer that if you take care of your overall health (diet, lifestyle, sleep, etc) than many of these "consequences" of these pharmaceuticals won't occur. Your body is an amazing piece of machinery if you treat it well and do regular maintenance, you know just like a car ;)

I did Tinidazole for many months pulsed it 3x a week. Right now I'm doing a few days of Flagyl every few weeks. Both are very good broad spectrum abx and are quite effective at killing anaerobic bacteria and protozoa like Babesia.

Remember ticks carry all sorts of crap including protozoa that feed off of Lyme and Bartonella. Its a complex ecosystem that gets transferred into you and gets to proliferate much to your chagrin.

Today I feel one of these is a must to mix in with your abx regimen on some type of pulsing schedule as it has different mechanisms of action and effectiveness against bacteria and protozoa and lets be honest no one really knows exactly what critters they're carrying around so might as well cast the net a little wider!
Posted 4/3/2017 4:42 PM (GMT 0)
Everyone!
Thank you so much for your responses!

I have been back and forth through the decision to use tinidazole. My LLMD has found great success in using this abx so I am optimistic. I will be pulsing it along with my other abx but I plan to not be on it for too long.
Thank you, Thank you!
Posted 4/3/2017 5:28 PM (GMT 0)
you know what they say about best laid plans.... ;o)
Posted 4/3/2017 5:58 PM (GMT 0)
You need to take something for the cysts...pharma means Tinidazole or Flagyl (some say Rifampin works?)

...or you can take GSE - but I'm not hearing much about that one lately.


The other thing that helps is pulsing the meds...on the days off...the bacteria comes out of hiding. But, how many days off are needed? Probably more than a few days.
Posted 4/3/2017 7:05 PM (GMT 0)
Yeah, I currently pulse my bart abx
Posted 4/3/2017 7:24 PM (GMT 0)
My husband has been taking the Tinidazole for two months now everyday. He says it's helping a great deal! He feels better on it than any of the other meds. Dr said he will likely come off of it after this round and see how he feels.
Posted 4/3/2017 7:26 PM (GMT 0)
Wow, Gemini - that's great news.

I've not heard of anyone being on only Tinidazole for treatment.
...he's not on any other meds with it?
Posted 4/3/2017 8:30 PM (GMT 0)
any ongoing chronic inflammatory process in the body will increase the risk of cancer. any immunosupprrssive drug or disease will do the same.

lyme causes both inflammation and mild immune suppression...

ive seen several studies with long term lyme patient followups where some of the ppl dropped out of the trial for reasons of other more serious diseases (cancer).

so i think lyme untreated is much worse in terms of cancer chances than any of its medication...

since nobody really tested this rigurously, one can only guess the odds..., but they are worse than for healthy ppl.
Posted 4/3/2017 11:13 PM (GMT 0)
Yeah it's one of my strongly held beliefs that cancers are fundamentally parasitized wounds. I'd probably be less worried about the carcinogenicity of tinidazole than I would the other side effects like peripheral neuropathy. Not saying not to do it. Just saying to focus on mitigating the immediate side effects, minimize your exposure, and don't stress too much about cancer
Posted 4/3/2017 11:47 PM (GMT 0)
My doctor wants me to use GSE. I used it before. I don't know if it did much. As much as I've seen and felt things work, it's hard for me to believe in some naturals. I envision Lyme cysts as mighty fortresses, dressed in crocodile-laden moats, and the GSE's like a jelly glaze being slung at the walls.

I think we're just doing this stuff until my gut's better, though. I've got stuff in my sinuses too. I need to work on doing the best I can to combat mold in the house, and spray stuff in my sinuses.

I'd like to use antibiotics, ultimately. Though, I should be positive about the possibility of the new tinctures working.

I don't know, just saw the mention of GSE.

I'd totally take the risk of Tinidazole. I will, when/if the time is right. I feel like so many things increase the risk of cancer, nowadays. The planet itself is unhealthy, because of us. Try, try, try to be healthy as possible, you could still get it. Screw it.
Posted 4/3/2017 11:53 PM (GMT 0)

Psilociraptor said...
Yeah it's one of my strongly held beliefs that cancers are fundamentally parasitized wounds. I'd probably be less worried about the carcinogenicity of tinidazole than I would the other side effects like peripheral neuropathy. Not saying not to do it. Just saying to focus on mitigating the immediate side effects, minimize your exposure, and don't stress too much about cancer

I had read that the peripheral neuropathy from the tinidazole is correlated with length of use.
I don't have a link - did you read that?

And..if we're pulsing it only a couple days a week...which many of us do take it that way...maybe that would help mitigate that effect?
Posted 4/4/2017 12:46 AM (GMT 0)
That's what I read too. I've never actually heard of anyone having a problem using it this way so I don't know.
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