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Posted 4/13/2017 6:59 PM (GMT 0)
I'm having my son tested for Lyme, and my LLMD has recommended using Armin Labs. I used Igenex for myself and am not familiar with Armin. Anyone have experience with them?

He prefers Armin for accuracy and speed, he says.

Thank you!
Posted 4/13/2017 7:17 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Anne - welcome to our community.

Some LLMD's do use Armin Labs...but I personally don't have experience with them.

How quickly do the results come back? Igenex is about 3 weeks.

We encourage all new members to read through the thread at the top of the page titled: "new to Lyme?..Start Here!" It's packed full of useful information.
Posted 4/13/2017 7:46 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Anne,

I haven’t used Armin Labs so I don’t know about their turnaround time. But interesting that your LLMD prefers them for accuracy because they were accused that their testing is inaccurate. Not sure where I read that but sure I did. Personally I don’t believe that. Armin Labs also issued a statement that addressed the accusations.
I used another lab in Germany called BCA lab. You get the results in about a week but I found it very hard to deal with them so would not recommend. If there is a problem, it takes a long time to sort out.
Posted 4/13/2017 8:09 PM (GMT 0)
Testing is inaccurate with any lab when it comes to tick-borne illness testing.

Western blots - often don't pick up anything because if our immune system is compromised then we won't be producing the antibodies required for the positive bands.

PCR's are inaccurate because that particular sample may not have any of the bacteria in it...so false negatives a plenty.

But, there are labs that are better than others'.

Igenex is one that specializes in tick-borne disease testing...so it's better than Quest...or Labcorp. (more sensitive test, and has more bands.)

I do know a lot of Canadian Dr.'s are using Armin Labs and do find it to be a good lab.
Posted 4/13/2017 11:12 PM (GMT 0)
Is there a big price difference between armin labs and Igenex? I would go with my instinct and research.
Posted 4/14/2017 2:44 AM (GMT 0)
Krimpet, it's $375 for the Lyme, Babesia and Bartonella tests through Armin, per my LLMD.
Posted 4/14/2017 2:47 AM (GMT 0)
Girlie, supposedly, the turnaround time is one week with Armin.
Posted 4/14/2017 3:34 AM (GMT 0)

A_Anne said...
Girlie, supposedly, the turnaround time is one week with Armin.


Okay, thanks. That's quick!
Posted 4/14/2017 7:15 AM (GMT 0)

Girlie said...
Testing is inaccurate with any lab when it comes to tick-borne illness testing.

Western blots - often don't pick up anything because if our immune system is compromised then we won't be producing the antibodies required for the positive bands.

PCR's are inaccurate because that particular sample may not have any of the bacteria in it...so false positives a plenty.

But, there are labs that are better than others'.

Igenex is one that specializes in tick-borne disease testing...so it's better than Quest...or Labcorp. (more sensitive test, and has more bands.)

I do know a lot of Canadian Dr.'s are using Armin Labs and do find it to be a good lab.

Yes, they all can be inaccurate. What I meant is that Armin Labs were accused of being less reliable than other labs specialised in Lyme. Here is the statement they issued to clarify things:

http://lymediseaseuk.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Statement_regarding_DAKKS_Accreditation.pdf

I think they should be fine. If I needed testing again, I would go there because customer service at BCA lab/clinic is bad in my experience.
Posted 4/14/2017 7:48 AM (GMT 0)
I just saw an error in my post - have edited to correct.

I said the PCR had false positives.

That is not what I meant to say - rather they have false negatives.
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