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Posted 4/21/2017 6:53 AM (GMT 0)
Am sure this must be another lyme or bart symptom. Have been doing really well and back at work full time, have been doing too much and had lots of stress in work but thought I was handling it all by taking all the herbs it seemed to be working, am really strict on my healthy diet and detox. My full time work now is basically an 11 hour day just sitting, the commute takes around three hours each day and then the rest of the time inbetween I am mostly sat at my desk and the pains in my calves is getting worse and now keeping me awake through the night. This morning I could hardly walk my legs were 'dead' and heavy.

The area behind my left knee for the last 10 days or so has been so painful and felt like a balloon about to burst but there was no swelling on the outside, very strange sensations and the leg and knee were weak so I am limping as can't put any weight on it.

I know I need to cut back on my workload and stress as have head pains and full feeling and a few ear problems rearing their head again.

Am so worried as if I don't work full time I can't afford my herbs.

Just wanted to see if anyone else had anything like this.
Posted 4/21/2017 7:00 AM (GMT 0)
Wow - an 11 hour day...that's gotta be tough.

During your work day - are you getting up and walking around frequently?
I'm just wondering if sitting is aggravating the legs? and also lack of movement - you are stiffening up?
Posted 4/21/2017 7:13 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Girlie

Thank yo uso much for your response, yes I think it is due to that, I was doing so well before I went back full time as I was making sure I did quite a bit of walking in the fresh air. I go for a walk around lunch time each day but I don't think that is enough. I will try doing a walk every hour, I need to speak to my Directors over that but think it will be ok. The mental pressure of the work and the drive with all the traffic congestion seems to be causing some neuro symptoms again. I am off today and then its the weekend so need to put a plan into action before I head for a full relapse as I can feel things really starting to go backwards.

One thing I have done is asked to down to a four day week and they have agreed I can do that which should help but won't agree to a shorter working day on the four days, if things still regress I will have to move down to 3 days for a while.
Posted 4/21/2017 7:33 AM (GMT 0)
That's great that the Directors will allow a 4 day work week...that should help some.

If you could get up every hour and even just a two or three minute walk might help. maybe if you explain you just need a few minutes...then it will be okay.

Hope this works better for you.
Posted 4/21/2017 3:21 PM (GMT 0)
Suzee. Glad you are back to work full time but when I read this it worrried me. Those are all also signs of a blood clot in the leg (DVT). Especially since you say it's worse on one side and you have been sitting for long periods of time. I would call the doctor and let them know your symptoms.
Posted 4/21/2017 3:24 PM (GMT 0)
Just wanted to chime in and agree with Girlie on this. I hope it helps enough. Also, is it possible it's muscle cramps? Or do you believe it's different?
Posted 4/21/2017 5:34 PM (GMT 0)
Dc thats what I have been worried about, I was going to go to the hospital last night during the early hours but decided I would wait another day and see how it is. I am feeling really down and strange but think its the worry. I have been getting muscle cramps almost daily in both calves too, have been putting magnesium oil on in the evenings and that has helped slightly I think, in that they are not as severe.

It it was something like that Dc it wouldn't let up would it ?? It would just get progressively worse ??

I am not feeling good at all today, really tired and weepy but think that is due to being worried about what this is as well as trying to balance work around my illness which seems to be creeping back.
Posted 4/21/2017 5:36 PM (GMT 0)
I suffer the same. I believe mine is a Bart symptom. The pain is consistent regardless of the activity. But I have no cramping so my issue may be much different.

My pain is not intolerable but always sore and can be activated by pressure but never alleviated.

There is deep seated pain in multiple points of the feet and legs that never were tender before.

The same spots are always sore in a way that a foot massage feels so painfully good.
Posted 4/21/2017 5:43 PM (GMT 0)
ChickenArise, this is a new symptom for me and coincides with me sitting for long periods of time. I had really bad sole of foot pain and both big toes were really sore and tender for a long time, and like a bunion that comes and goes on my right foot.

This calf pain is incessant at the moment and then really painful when I try to get to sleep I have been thinking its a Bart symptom as I am hitting that with my herbs at the moment. It is draining and the turmeric, and other natural 'painkillers' don't seem to help at all.
Posted 4/21/2017 8:27 PM (GMT 0)

Suzee said...
Dc thats what I have been worried about, I was going to go to the hospital last night during the early hours but decided I would wait another day and see how it is. I am feeling really down and strange but think its the worry. I have been getting muscle cramps almost daily in both calves too, have been putting magnesium oil on in the evenings and that has helped slightly I think, in that they are not as severe.

It it was something like that Dc it wouldn't let up would it ?? It would just get progressively worse ??

I am not feeling good at all today, really tired and weepy but think that is due to being worried about what this is as well as trying to balance work around my illness which seems to be creeping back.


They may not get worse in every case. It depends a lot on whether it's in a larger artery or a branch off vein.

I do get blood clots, or was, quite frequently. And the area behind my left knee is right where I got them first. Most of the time they will dissolve with no medical intervention other than chewing an aspirin. I've been to the e.r. quite a few times with them but since these were in the smaller veins they only kept me once. I haven't gone now for about 4 years. I'm supposed to be on a low dose aspirin a day to prevent them. Lyme is known to thicken the blood.

Also, try to keep your legs somewhat elevated or at least straight out rather than bend at the knee when you're sitting. Even at a desk.

If the pain happens to get very severe don't try to 'walk it out'. Chew an aspirin and consider going to urgent care.
Posted 4/21/2017 9:10 PM (GMT 0)
Is the pain muscular??? My calves if i flex the lock up and i have to stand up to get it to go away.....very painful!!
Posted 4/22/2017 5:41 AM (GMT 0)
julymorning thanks and yes I have been elevating my leg each evening with a cushion on a chair. Yesterday I lowered the dosage and quantities of my herbs and the pain in the calves has lessened, both feel heavy but that is just uncomfortable rather than painful, however, the left one which has been the main problem is still sore and tender and just behind the knee and the knee itself but not as bad as it has been. That horrible balloon/swelling feeling has gone and just feels similar to bruised inside. I am going to get some aspirin in today. I never usually take them.

This is my 3rd day off this week in succession so I have been moving about a lot more, it may be nothing to do with lowering the dosage and more to do with being more mobile and not just sitting in the car and at my desk.

If the symptoms return next week I am going to go to 3 days working as this has been really worrying.
Posted 4/22/2017 4:59 PM (GMT 0)
I would encourage you to talk to your doctor if it comes back or doesn't let up. The possibility of blood clots is a serious condition.

Find something that will fit under your desk to put your feet up on while you are at work - moving around will help more, but this will help as well. Keep those legs and feet moving. You can also "pump" your feet - like you are walking, as this will help increase blood flow. Do get up and walk around just as much as your office will allow you to as well. Trips to the bathroom, trips to stretch, trips to get a drink of water - most any movement should help.
Posted 4/22/2017 11:15 PM (GMT 0)
I will go and see the doctor as its back this evening, its just so uncomfortable and heavy legs again and I am really not feeling good.
Posted 4/22/2017 11:39 PM (GMT 0)
Let us know what you find out Suzee! ((hugs))
Posted 4/23/2017 1:52 AM (GMT 0)
Suzee - I've had all the above talked about here too.

In my experience a DVT calf clot feels like a deep ache and muscle is hard, you can't push in with your finger. It can't be massaged away at all- makes zero difference. Its not the sharp pain like a "charlie horse" would be.

A non-charlie horse cramp is also a dull ache, BUT its more localized you can push in with your thumb and around it- has more defined boarders than a DVT. And can be massaged away- but not easy.

A trigger point is even more localized, way smaller, very defined boarders and will melt away if pushed hard for 10-30 sec, but painfull while doing this.

I went on TWO blood thinners for two weeks followed by another ultra sound to be sure it was gone. then took one baby aspirin a day for 6 months.

hope this helps

Post Edited (astroman) : 4/23/2017 1:00:52 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 4/23/2017 6:47 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks astroman, that really does help.

I am afraid to go to the doctors but I should be more afraid of not going. I didn't sleep too well as the left knee and calf were 'heavy' and had to keep that leg straight as can't bend the knee. I put another pillow under the left leg and knee all night.

This morning the right leg is fine it is just the area around the left knee that is so sore and heavy. I will either go to the medical walk in centre today or my doctor in the morning.

JK is a blood thinner isn't it?? I have been taking K2 with my vit D and red root but have now stopped taking those for the time being. Taking half an aspirin morning and evening.
Posted 4/23/2017 6:58 PM (GMT 0)
I went to "urget care" since it was bad and on a sat afternoon. In the US thats one step down from the ER, but billed like a clinic since they are NOT a hospital.

I'm not familiar with JK herb.
Posted 4/23/2017 7:07 PM (GMT 0)

Suzee said...
Thanks astroman, that really does help.

I am afraid to go to the doctors but I should be more afraid of not going. I didn't sleep too well as the left knee and calf were 'heavy' and had to keep that leg straight as can't bend the knee. I put another pillow under the left leg and knee all night.

This morning the right leg is fine it is just the area around the left knee that is so sore and heavy. I will either go to the medical walk in centre today or my doctor in the morning.

JK is a blood thinner isn't it?? I have been taking K2 with my vit D and red root but have now stopped taking those for the time being. Taking half an aspirin morning and evening.

Yep! Yes it is...May be why I haven't experienced any new blood clots in my legs this year!

/www.beneficialbotanicals.com/tincture-information/japanese-knotweed.html
Posted 4/24/2017 5:50 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks astro and thanks so much for the link julymorning !!
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