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Posted 6/5/2017 2:38 PM (GMT 0)
"PhosphatidylSerine at night befoe you go to bed. This will help lower your nighttime Cortisol levels."

forums.prohealth.com/forums/index.php?threads/whats-up-with-feeling-horrible-in-the-morning-best-in-evening.188503/
Posted 6/5/2017 2:51 PM (GMT 0)
Interesting, Astroman. Thanks for posting this as it might apply to some. I wonder if there is any research to support this?

I know for me, my cortisol is already too low and I still wake up feeling horrible - I may be more like NicolaG2 (the last post on that page).
Posted 6/5/2017 3:20 PM (GMT 0)
I've heard of PhosphatidylSerine before but never looked into it. This would be intersting for those who's cortisol levels are 12 hrs off (flipped) and cant sleep.
Posted 6/5/2017 3:27 PM (GMT 0)
Some very interesting posts that may be confirming what you just proposed, this one in particular:
[ur]https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=1359474:

"I am waiting for adrenal tests through the above lab. My doctor suspects high cortisol at night due to some insomnia and the fact that I have the most energy then. He thinks my cortisol levels are flipped.

He recommended I take 2 capsules of Phosphatidylserine (PS-100) 2 hours before bed. It helps to lower high cortisol. It does not lower a cortisol level that is normal, however." From member: Kitty9309


There are some threads in my forum search that may also speak to this. You can find the search here:
/goo.gl/CIS4Yk
Posted 6/5/2017 3:40 PM (GMT 0)
I've used phosphatidyl serine quite a bit and while it hasn't fixed my 3am awakenings, it kinda sorta takes the edge off of a herx a little maybe when I get all wired, or maybe not, I dunno. Subtle, at best for me.

I got an rx for Valium but am reluctant to try it. It's comforting to know I have it in case of emergency.

Phosphatidyl serine has some other good benefits as well.

Self hacked website has a good article on ps. He references his claims to research.
/selfhacked.com/2016/11/17/phosphatidylserine/


/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15512856
Posted 6/5/2017 6:17 PM (GMT 0)
I use it since my cortisol is flipped. It's helped tremendously with sleep.
Posted 6/6/2017 1:43 AM (GMT 0)
What brands have you tried..........was there a difference? I assume its in capsule form (?).

I think my cortisol is still a little high at night sometimes, and upon waking. I feel best 7-12 PM.

It was real bad laying in bed "wired" for years, really hope that doesn't happen again.
Posted 6/6/2017 3:54 AM (GMT 0)
Actually I use Designs for Health brand powder. I mix the powder with a little bit of applesauce. It has virtually no taste. My LLND's instructions were to take 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon 45 minutes to an hour before you want to sleep.
Posted 6/6/2017 5:00 AM (GMT 0)
I was taking it for about five months. TBH I didn't notice a boost in supposed mental function. I felt about the same. My LLMD had me stop and start taking choline instead. I haven't started yet. I have, however, had more waking up at night the last few weeks - at least 2 or three times, always at the same times - I also now have a harder time going to sleep. I never had problems before.
Posted 6/6/2017 6:40 AM (GMT 0)
10-Does your waking up at night issues align with stopping the phos-serine? I'm only asking because I find that changing my protocol very often causes changes (typically for the worse) in my sleep pattern. As soon as my body adjusts to the new treatment I return back to my new normal sleep pattern.
Posted 6/6/2017 1:33 PM (GMT 0)
I took Jarrow PS100 for several months around 10:30 p.m. because I was having anxiety and panic around 3 a.m. It lowered my cortisol and helped. I used the Carlson brand too and liked that one very much.

I have also used it when I was having noon time anxiety. I had to be careful with that one because it was lowering my cortisol so well that I wanted to go to bed by 7 p.m.

Post Edited (Loutucky) : 6/6/2017 7:43:17 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 6/7/2017 3:54 PM (GMT 0)
How much of the PS100 or should I take? phosphatidyl serine comes in 100mg and 500 mg. how many should I try initially and work up to?
my cortisol tests say my night time cortisol is way too high and daytime is way too low. I'm so messed up.
thank you
Posted 6/7/2017 4:00 PM (GMT 0)
lymehater, it's probably an individual thing. I am a small person and I started out with one 100mg capsule and eventually took two capsules at night. At noon if I took it, I never took more than 1 capsule.

I would start low and see how you react to it.
Posted 6/7/2017 4:02 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for the post Astro!

Definitely going to try this as I also fall into the category of high nighttime cortisol. This is exacerbated when I exercise. Body seems to have an exaggerated response to any kind of stimulus and cortisol levels stay heightened which does not help muscle recovery since cortisol is a catabolic hormone.......it also suppresses the immune system which is not good for those who are fighting active infections.
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