Muscle wasting

Muscle wasting is usually a Lyme thing, although I think there have been a few people that may have reported it as a Bart thing.

This article may be of some help: www.gordonmedical.com/unravelling-complex-chronic-illness/babesia-like-organisms-bablo-consideration-signs-and-symptoms/

Thanx guys! Octobrsky - is it a babs thing? What infections do you have? I forget

TokyoPVCs said...
Yep. I've always been slim but in the past two months I have lost literally EVERY ounce of fat / muscle I ever had (right down to the squidgy bits between my bones). Even breathing hurts.

Oh, be careful, TokyoPVCs! I was that thin (was 35 lbs underweight) once from these infections, and it was quite painful! Do be sure you are including high calorie healthy foods to your diet - nut butters, olive/coconut oil, protein shakes and more will help! Eat smallish meals every few hours rather than larger ones periodically too.

My was real site specific like divits in flesh .in hands ankles ..zombie freak show crap ....this is nerve damage i believe from lyme and bart imo ...see other threads ..i have spent a lot of time and money to stop it ...iv abx ,bvt and bart treatment seemes to have halted it getting back is a whole another story

mareish said...
My right calf has become noticeably smaller than the left. Doc sent me to neurologist for nerve/muscle conduction tests. Results were "normal".

I have noticed muscle atrophy/wasting all over body lately.

Is it possible to regain muscle and strength after all of this?

Me too! I've always had muscly, toned calves. And my right one shrunk. I keep measuring it with a tape and it's 1/2 " smaller in diameter!!!

and I'm exercising now...and they're just not as toned as they used to be.

I've treated lyme and bartonella extensively...now I'm treating Babesia...we'll see what happens...3 1/2 months in now.

Girlie, Great that you're exercising. Hoping you notice improvement soon. It's kind of scary watching the body weaken so quickly.

Traveler, Say it isn't so!! Happy for you and your new endeavors but selfishly wish you could stay here forever. You have been an invaluable source of information and support.

physedgirl09 said...
Hey guys

So i noticed a few days ago that my right calf in indenting in. Muscle wasting? Is this from babesia and does anyone else experience this? Makes me sad cuz I had really nice calf muscles 😢

Hello physedgirl,

I had the exact same thing happen to me last October. I looked down at my legs one day and collagen loss occurred in my knees, ankles, and my calf got smaller. And also in my right calf an actual indention.

It was weird. My left calf got smaller than my right but my right calf was the only one with the "indention". Strange.

Here's what worked for me. I started taking protein and collagen supplement daily and then I started working the muscle out.

I would do a variety of "heel raising" exercises similar to what professional dancers do. It's a very good workout on the calves. You may see those ballerinas do it but it's a work out. And then you can always increase your reps as you get stronger.

I did this every other day or every other 2 days for multiple months. I went very light with it and only started to work out my calves much harder recently (meaning in the last month).

Results:

Both calves grew. I would say 30-40% growth towards it's original size. With lyme, one side often response better than the other but both sides responded. The dent that felt like a crater in my right calf is being filled. It's hard to explain. It's no longer a big round indention, but there's one huge muscle fibers cutting across it almost filling it in but not quite completely. I suspect the more I stay on the physical therapy the more it will continue to fill in.

Basically what I'm trying to say is you can re-build muscle after lyme breaks it down. HOWEVER, I would also suspect one would have to get the bacterial load down to make gains.

Post Edited (dacarte3) : 7/13/2017 3:08:14 PM (GMT-6)

Purrrsiankitty said...
a collagen powder is benefical for muscle wastiing

Is it?

I'm a little suspect on collagen supps. I take them because I "hope" they work but I really don't know if they do. I notice more improvement when increasing my protein intake versus the collagen supp.

Has anyone taken collagen and then that alone halted muscle wasting?

I'm a little disappointed in the one I have been taking for the past 6 months and switch to a different brand.

What brand do you use?