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Posted 10/24/2017 11:26 PM (GMT 0)
I've been posting pretty frequently on here... More and more things keep coming up confused

So, long story short. My last two symptoms left are head and eye pressure (so I thought). I've been off of abx for a month now. Just started taking Nystatin last week, slowly increasing each dose, in beliefs I have a y/f overgrowth because of all of the abx I've been treated with the past year. Also on a no carb, sugar, dairy, caffeine, alcohol diet started 2 weeks ago.

The past 3 days I have been experiencing air hunger for the first time ever... it's scary. My chest feels tight and no matter what I do I feel like I'm not getting enough air. Just feels like somethings stuck in my throat.

Could this be die off from yeast? Or does this NOW sound like Babesia? My symptoms over the past year hit every point on the checklist....head/eye pressure, mood swings, brain fog, insomnia, heart palps at one point while on Mepron, etc.... BUT I feel like my eye and head pressure is getting better even the last 2 weeks alone. Just this air hunger came out of nowhere. It's making me so anxious!

Along with this, I've had polyps in my throat for the past year, they've considerably shrunk in size. Have yet to see an ENT. In progress of finding one. Could these be causing my throat to close up? (I'm leaning more towards y/f die off OR Babs.. hopefully not babs)

Anyone have an idea what could be going on in my body?

[Symptoms began Aug. 2016. Diagnosed Jan. 2017. Doxy from Jan. to May. Zithro June to July. Tested negative for co-infections, but LLMD suspected Babesia. Mepron for 2 weeks (w/ Zithro), got bad heart palps, so stopped Mepron. Stopped Zithro shortly after when PVC's continued. 2 month abx break. Ceftin 2 weeks then stopped b/c head pressure got much worse. Currently taking Nystatin in beliefs of y/f overgrowth]
Posted 10/24/2017 11:40 PM (GMT 0)
Piroutte is the yeast expert. She'll chime in soon.
Posted 10/24/2017 11:54 PM (GMT 0)
dacarte3 -

She's the best, she's been helping me out a ton the last couple of weeks on here.
Posted 10/25/2017 1:23 AM (GMT 0)
sorry kml1997 -

I'm glad you're making some progress. The air hunger can be kind of frightening. It's weird, though - people describe it very differently so it's tough to know what the exact cause is.

It absolutely could be from one of the infections becoming more dominant. I had a flare of mycoplasma pneumonia this weekend and it closed by my lungs in a terrifying way. It's now loosening up and I'm coughing up a lot of mucus--otherwise I would assume it was air hunger and caused by something else.

And it could also be a reaction to y/f die off. This is the tricky part about antifungals with Lyme treatment - they cause so many similar sx and it's tough to navigate through it all.

My best recommendation is to continue with what you're doing. Take a break for a day or two if you like (don't reduce dose - you don't want to allow the y/f to build up resistance with too low a dose). Best is to keep going and crank up the detox if you can. And make sure you're drinking enough water and taking a good GI binder to get that die off out of you.

I'm not sure about the polyps but I know that the y/f die off can cause some issues in the throat, gagging, trouble swallowing, weird notions and even scratchiness/soreness. I even had weird white "sores" develop at first. Once I successfully treated, those sx haven't returned.

If you think the polyps might be related to the overgrowth:
Sorry - I can't remember if you're taking the Nystatin pills or the powder. If you're taking the powder - it is likely killing any y/f in the mouth and throat as you swallow, which is good and necessary and it does this better than any pills you can take. If you're taking the pills, the trouble is, they can kill the overgrowth in your gut/GI but sometimes it doesn't reach up your throat well. You might try smashing up the pills and dumping them into a small amount of water.

I hope that's helpful - just keep asking questions if not.

-p
Posted 10/25/2017 1:35 AM (GMT 0)
I also forgot to mention I have these tiny colorless painless bumps all over my legs too if that could indicate something as well. Not too sure. But, I will trying breaking up the pills and taking them that way! I definitely could detox more I'll push the lemon water and epsom salt baths

Pirouette said...
sorry kml1997 -

I'm glad you're making some progress. The air hunger can be kind of frightening. It's weird, though - people describe it very differently so it's tough to know what the exact cause is.

It absolutely could be from one of the infections becoming more dominant. I had a flare of mycoplasma pneumonia this weekend and it closed by my lungs in a terrifying way. It's now loosening up and I'm coughing up a lot of mucus--otherwise I would assume it was air hunger and caused by something else.

And it could also be a reaction to y/f die off. This is the tricky part about antifungals with Lyme treatment - they cause so many similar sx and it's tough to navigate through it all.

My best recommendation is to continue with what you're doing. Take a break for a day or two if you like (don't reduce dose - you don't want to allow the y/f to build up resistance with too low a dose). Best is to keep going and crank up the detox if you can. And make sure you're drinking enough water and taking a good GI binder to get that die off out of you.

I'm not sure about the polyps but I know that the y/f die off can cause some issues in the throat, gagging, trouble swallowing, weird notions and even scratchiness/soreness. I even had weird white "sores" develop at first. Once I successfully treated, those sx haven't returned.

If you think the polyps might be related to the overgrowth:
Sorry - I can't remember if you're taking the Nystatin pills or the powder. If you're taking the powder - it is likely killing any y/f in the mouth and throat as you swallow, which is good and necessary and it does this better than any pills you can take. If you're taking the pills, the trouble is, they can kill the overgrowth in your gut/GI but sometimes it doesn't reach up your throat well. You might try smashing up the pills and dumping them into a small amount of water.

I hope that's helpful - just keep asking questions if not.

-p

Posted 10/25/2017 1:37 AM (GMT 0)
And thanks for the props you two! Very sweet of you.

I only wish there was a way to thank everyone I learned from when I did all my digging for nearly two years. So - it feels good to pay it forward!

-p
Posted 10/25/2017 3:14 PM (GMT 0)
Hi KML. I'm not a yeast expert, but have benefitted myself from P's posts on so many issues (thanks, P!).

For me, the air hunger you describe was related to my Babesia. Sometimes I would wake up in the middle of the night gasping for breath, while other times I would run out of air mid sentence. In both cases, I just couldn't seem to take in a deep enough breath. It's scary.

I also had a lot of all over head pressure with Babesia. Both the head pressure and the air hunger went away after I treated for 6 months with Mepron/Azithromycin.

Does your LLMD think it's worth revisiting Babesia treatment? I think your history said that you couldn't tolerate Mepron, and I'm not an MD, so I don't know how that would translate to Malarone. But, there are others here that have used cryptolepsis and other herbs to address Babesia, too. Maybe something to consider?

Hope you feel better,
Kelly
Posted 10/25/2017 6:00 PM (GMT 0)

kml1997 said...
I also forgot to mention I have these tiny colorless painless bumps all over my legs too if that could indicate something as well. Not too sure. But, I will trying breaking up the pills and taking them that way! I definitely could detox more I'll push the lemon water and epsom salt baths

If these were red, I'd agree with the others - babs and bart can produce "petechiae" or little red dots.

I think the tiny colorless bumps are from your skin trying really hard to detox some stuff - could be related to y/f die off, could be other things. As long as nothing hurts or gets worse - keep doing what you're doing. I think the soaks will help draw out the toxins a little better from your skin. You might also support lymph and circulation to help detox better.

Let us know how things go!

-p
Posted 10/25/2017 10:05 PM (GMT 0)
Can you tell me how to support lymph and circulation? dry skin brush, epsom salts or are you talking about something else? Thank you, G
Posted 10/25/2017 10:30 PM (GMT 0)
Red root, dry brushing, lymph massages all help support lymph drainage and proper circulation--be sure to reference proper methodologies - a lot of good info online.

I think grapeseed is also good for circulation.

Epsom salts will help draw toxins out of your skin - very good for detoxing but proceed slowly at first with all detoxing methods.

-p
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