Has anyone taken Agmatine Sulfate with Kratom or by itself

I've heard it helps to lower tolerance to Kratom. It's a synthetic supplement so I wanted to make sure it was safe to take especially with lyme. If anyone has tried it before please tell me your experiences. Thanks

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What timing on my checking in. I hope everyone had a Merry Xmas. I currently take Agmatine and use Kratom. It has prevented my tolerance from building. I take 1000mg on an empty stomach on wake daily. It works and it doesn't seem to aggravate any virus like Arganine would (it is a metabolite of this). It should take about a week loading of Amagatine before it starts to work.

I now take 8-9 gram doses and I have actually had to lower it to 7 at times. I was dosing upwards of 15g before and constantly finding myself climbing.

Now, that much would give me the jitters, which is how I know I have taken to much.

I did a thread on it here and there is some more tecnical info on reddit.com

It works unlike any other in a way like no other.

Every once in a while re dosing does fail. I will switch the strain when this happens, but re dosing is more effective using agmatine and I dont raise by much because larger dosing can have a negative affect. Try adding less and waiting an hour. Repeat if needed but with smaller doses. I dont know how much you are taking but you are looking for your sweetspot.

Before agmatine I had more failed doses and had trouble with adding on. After being on agmatine for a while I can do add on dosing in smaller amounts.

What negative effects are you having. If I take too much I get slight tremors. If that happens I take Xanax but you dont want to do this unless you have to.