Can You Take to Many Buhner Herbals?

1000Daisies, I appreciate your response and am glad to hear that you and your children are doing better. It helps me knowing that you did lower doses and have seen improvement.

Most people on the herbals are taking many daily.

I was supplementing my antibiotic treatment and even then I was taking several.

At one point: JK, Hawthorn, Cryptolepis, Sida Acuta, Alchornea cordifolia, Greater Celandine, Kudzu, Pinella and Burbur, plus the non-herb supplements: magnesium, vit.d, B12, L-Arginine, L-Lysine, B complex, Vita C, CoQ10, etc. etc.

I'd have to go look in my cupboard to see the rest.

Girlie & PeteZa, you both were definitely on many things so I feel more comfortable with my kitchen pharmacy.

PeteZa, I've got a feeling that it will be quite some time before I become symptom free. I'm very happy the herbals worked for you. I'm just hoping for a couple good days in a row!

I could see the possibility of 5, but no less than that.

Protecting endothelial structures - recommended 1 herb

Cytokine remodulation - recommended 2 herbs

Collagen protection - maybe this is not considered an herb

Immune remodulation - I don't know how many he recommends for this. Minimally I guess 1, I did 2.

Antispirochetal - recommended 1 herb

What about treating for Babs and Bart at the same time???? That would mean more herbs also.

I would question that herbalist again cakegirl.

His neuro-lyme protocol uses more than 4 herbals. If I treat one disease at a time I would be constantly switching the protocols as one becomes more dominant causing symptoms.

The thing is, it's highly dependent on not only the patient, but on the practitioner as well. Everyone has their own opinion of 'what's best'.

That being said, someone that needs to address more than one infection at a time, will, obviously, need to be taking more herbs. As long as it's tolerated, they don't cross react, and the person's body is coping with it all, it should be fine, although monitoring closely would be a necessity.

Using only 4, 5 or 6 herbals at one time would mean that many would simply never heal. We often need help with detoxing, supporting the body as well as protecting from the damage that these infections can cause - and that's not to mention any herbs that are for a more "direct treatment" of the bacteria (or whatever) itself.

This is far too complex to be saying that what one doctor said to one patient stands for all patients - unless we are talking about something that may be dangerous, like steroids, not detoxing or other things that are not so specific to one person, but issues nearly all of us face.

PeteZa (I hope you don't mine if I use you as a good example!) is a good example of someone that never had serious issues with detoxing, and yet I can do the exact same things as she does, and have a serious issue because I'm simply not helping my body to detox enough. The examples abound, so let's be careful to not get hung up on the individuality of these infections and what they do to each person.

"I am down to a few bad days a month instead of a few good days a month. However, I'm still limiting exercise and physical activity so not sure what will happen when I try and start up again."

Congratulations, Kat!!!! It's a wonderful feeling when you realize that you have more good days than bad!!! I do hope it only continues to improve for you!!

Remember, as you start to exercise and such again, to go slow and give yourself time to recover as needed!

All we can do is take it one day at a time and see what we can find that will help us get back to being fully functional. I hope that you are nearing that time soon!!

With all the time I've spent herxing over the years, I can tell you that when I herx now, I'm not in a good mood at all. LOL. I'm just so tired of it all. So, if you are herxing, I can certainly relate to those bad days. I still just have some bad days too, usually when things get crazy here too! LOL!

Do your best to be kind to yourself and pace yourself as you come back - bad days happen for everyone, and with these infections, it's all proportional.

A different approach might be just what you need! I wish you luck with the doc has to say! Please do let us know!