Attempting fasting to help w/lyme- here we go!

Do keep us posted.

countingstarsx said...
Do you have experience fasting?

15 hours worth

The dry fast might be too intense, I'd start with water to see how it affects you.

For what it's worth, my experience is that hunger should quiet-down around Day 3.

Have you already seen this thread?

/www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3991134

atxlyme said...

The Dude Abides said...
For what it's worth, my experience is that hunger should quiet-down around Day 3.

Have you already seen this thread?

/www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3991134

Thanks!

Curious, do you have certain foods you like to break the fasts with? Anything you've learned you should/shouldn't do when you do break it?

Well, one thing I would AVOID is a Spicy Steak Burrito with Chili, Extra Cheese, and Ghost Peppers!

Okay, kidding aside. Some of the most knowledgeable and experienced doctors who provide medically-supervised water fasting are at the TrueNorth Health Center in Santa Rosa, CA.

While I don't have any of the clinic's literature, here's a YouTube video of a lady who does have some of their "Re-Feeding Guidelines":

/youtu.be/-7vj__-hOrY

Play the video full-screen and advance to the following times to see the respective guidelines:

0:36 - The "Standard" Re-Feeding Guidelines
1:43 - The "High Sensitivity" Re-Feeding Guidelines

Generally, short fasts are usually fine for healthy people, based on what I've read. But, I'm not a medical professional. So, since you're dealing with Lyme and possibly other issues, I would suggest informing your healthcare provider(s) that you're fasting, if you've not already done so.

As the fast progresses, the less you should do. This advice may be contradictory to your energy level, but I strongly urge you to heed it. In a perfect world, all fasts would be done in an environment of complete rest and medical supervision. At the TrueNorth Health Center, they don't even allow patients to bathe or shower, as a safety measure, lest someone faint and either drown or fall and critically/fatally injure themselves.

Take it easy, take it serious, and listen to your body's feedback.

Best of luck!

The Dude Abides said...


/youtu.be/-7vj__-hOrY

Play the video full-screen and advance to the following times to see the respective guidelines:

0:36 - The "Standard" Re-Feeding Guidelines
1:43 - The "High Sensitivity" Re-Feeding Guidelines

Awesome, thanks Dude!

Way to go, did you feel any extra fatigue or dizzyness during the fast so far?

hard dry fast: ended after 31 hours (didn't need to wasn't really thirsty at all, just didn't want to push it too hard since i'd never tried it before)

have been water fasting since.

36 hours since the last time i ate.

one noticeable thing: i'm much colder than normal - have heat cranked up several degrees higher than the norm and still cold. i'd heard this was a side effect for people. not a big deal though

honestly surprised at how little the hunger urges are. like, i'm hungry, but whatever. not starving like i thought i would be. relatively easy at this point.

44.5 hours since eating. super weak/tired, and now getting very dizzy when i stand up.

all good, just documenting for others

The Dude Abides said...
If I were you, I'd consider drinking some type of broth (vegetable, beef, chicken, etc.) that has an adequate amount of salt in it. Or, get a powdered electrolyte supplement to add to your water.

On fasting-mimicking diets, people consume around 800 calories a day. Thus, I don't believe drinking broth will derail your efforts. The calorie load from broth will be quite low.

I've got organic bone both here from pacific: 35 calories per serving w/85mg of sodium per serving. you saying i need to have a cup of that and/or something more?

The Dude Abides said...
Do you have anyone else in your household with you, during this fast?

no just me

atxlyme said...

The Dude Abides said...
If I were you, I'd consider drinking some type of broth (vegetable, beef, chicken, etc.) that has an adequate amount of salt in it. Or, get a powdered electrolyte supplement to add to your water.

On fasting-mimicking diets, people consume around 800 calories a day. Thus, I don't believe drinking broth will derail your efforts. The calorie load from broth will be quite low.

I've got organic bone both here from pacific: 35 calories per serving w/85mg of sodium per serving. you saying i need to have a cup of that and/or something more?

The Dude Abides said...
Do you have anyone else in your household with you, during this fast?

no just me

Well, I was suggesting that you consider drinking some of that turkey broth, if the dizziness is constant and/or gets worse. I thought the broth might help increase your blood pressure and help with dizziness, but it contains little sodium per serving and no potassium or other minerals.

Is your dizziness only when initially standing? Does the dizziness subside, once you're standing for a few minutes? Or, is there still some mild dizziness that persists?

Do whatever you think is right. I just don't want you passing-out and possibly hurting yourself. I wish you had someone there to keep an eye on you. But, I live alone, too, so I understand how that goes.

atxlyme said...

The Dude Abides said...
it contains little sodium per serving and no potassium or other minerals.

Does the 2nd one I posted work, or not because of the yeast extract?

The Dude Abides said...
Is your dizziness only when initially standing? Does the dizziness subside, once you're standing for a few minutes? Or, is there still some mild dizziness that persists?

Mainly when standing, but very, very strong dizziness.

Maybe slightly if still standing but not super noticeable- thought i have been mainly staying sitting/laying down

Between the two, I think the Kitchen Accomplice Bone Broth Concentrate looks better. In addition to the 470 mg of sodium per serving, it also has 340 mg of potassium. I can't think of any reason to be concerned about the yeast extract.

I'm glad to hear you're mainly sitting or lying down. Rest is good.