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Posted 5/29/2018 2:19 AM (GMT 0)
I've never had to deal with joint pain during this Lyme healing journey but over the last couple of weeks the left side (outer) of left ankle has been getting increasingly sore and stiff. I don't recall twisting it or banging it. It's not swollen or bruised, it just hurts. For those of you who have dealt with this before what have you done that's helped? Should I check in with my Lyme Dr? Just hate to call over every symptom or pain that comes along. Would love advice, thanks! smile

Post Edited (OnwardJeeves) : 5/28/2018 8:46:43 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 5/29/2018 12:43 PM (GMT 0)
I think I read recently that ankle pain tends to be bartonella. What infections are you treating, and how? Have you hurt that ankle in the past? Lyme likes to bother a foot and knee that I injured years ago. Are you taking Epsom salt baths?

I call for advice pretty often, but for musculoskeletal issues, I usually figure it's not going to affect my current plan so I don't usually call about those. I think that if I suspected a fracture or something, I'd go to my PCP, and otherwise I'd mention it at my next regular LLMD appointment. It really doesn't hurt to call if you're unsure though! Never know if they might have an idea that would help.

Post Edited (Dahlias) : 5/29/2018 7:04:25 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 5/29/2018 3:23 PM (GMT 0)
Interesting! My ankles are the only joints that still hurt, I never realised this could be a sign of bartonella. Ive been treating lyme for 8 months with good progress but seemed to plateau with some persistent symptoms a few months back.

I added Knotweed and herxed like crazy now im thinking its because the JK was treating bart for the first time.
Posted 5/29/2018 3:32 PM (GMT 0)
Are you or have you taken fluoroquinolone drugs? They can cause tendon injuries and can result in what is termed "floxing."

Anti-inflammatories theoretically should ease joint pain/stiffness. Curcumin, fish oil, Japanese knotweed (causes herxing for some), etc.

I have joint stiffness and pain most all the time. I blame it all on bart, although there are other things that can cause it, including Candida, the pneumonias, of course Lyme, and possibly nutrient and mineral deficiences.

Bart does a lot to the feet, though, and ankle stiffness is a part of that. That would be Suspect #1 IMO. I would definitely mention it to the LLMD. May be an indication it's time to make changes in the treatment plan, especially if this is a new symptom. If your next appointment is more than a few weeks away or if it gets worse or more stuff happens, then I would go ahead and call and not wait.
Posted 5/30/2018 6:08 PM (GMT 0)

Dahlias said...
I think I read recently that ankle pain tends to be bartonella. What infections are you treating, and how? Have you hurt that ankle in the past? Lyme likes to bother a foot and knee that I injured years ago. Are you taking Epsom salt baths?

I call for advice pretty often, but for musculoskeletal issues, I usually figure it's not going to affect my current plan so I don't usually call about those. I think that if I suspected a fracture or something, I'd go to my PCP, and otherwise I'd mention it at my next regular LLMD appointment. It really doesn't hurt to call if you're unsure though! Never know if they might have an idea that would help.

I was positive for Babesia, indeterminate for Lyme and negative for Bartonella back in 2015. My Dr currently has me on Super Artmenisinin for Babs and parasites, among other herbals. Funny enough I woke up this morning and my ankle 100% normal again. No aches, no pain, no stiffness. I'm happy but will certainly mention it to my Dr at next check in.
Posted 5/30/2018 6:13 PM (GMT 0)

WalkingbyFaith said...
Are you or have you taken fluoroquinolone drugs? They can cause tendon injuries and can result in what is termed "floxing."

Anti-inflammatories theoretically should ease joint pain/stiffness. Curcumin, fish oil, Japanese knotweed (causes herxing for some), etc.

I have joint stiffness and pain most all the time. I blame it all on bart, although there are other things that can cause it, including Candida, the pneumonias, of course Lyme, and possibly nutrient and mineral deficiences.

Bart does a lot to the feet, though, and ankle stiffness is a part of that. That would be Suspect #1 IMO. I would definitely mention it to the LLMD. May be an indication it's time to make changes in the treatment plan, especially if this is a new symptom. If your next appointment is more than a few weeks away or if it gets worse or more stuff happens, then I would go ahead and call and not wait.

I don't think I've ever taken drugs that 'flox' but then again its been many years since I've taken any. I certainly could have in the past...my memory is just not that great sad I've read about 'floxing' certainly scary stuff! My ankle when I woke up this morning was 100% back to normal which is odd but good. I will see if we can potentially test or treat for Bart as well if my Dr thinks appropriate. Thanks!
Posted 5/31/2018 12:45 PM (GMT 0)
I'm glad your ankle is feeling better!

Funny but after reading this, my own ankles and feet have been getting sore again -- haven't had that much for a year. I don't have bart that I know of. These just change all the time -- so strange.
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