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Posted 6/19/2018 7:21 PM (GMT 0)
I've been working on building up the babesia protocol... I started everything at once but low dosages on the antibabesial components (quicker with the immune modulation and organ support)... I know, SO not the recommended way... anyways, a week or so in I started having these crazy emotional swings. I'd be just fine, walking around enjoying the day... and then all of a sudden I'd be crying for no reason whatsoever. It would only last for a couple minutes, if that, and then I'd be fine again until the next time, but it was SUCH a big swing and quite startling for myself and my boys.

I also started freaking out when people got too close... Like within two feet of me. I could feel their energy if they got closer and would freak out. cry

Because Buhner talked about Sida Acuta being iffy with some people I halved my dose, going from 6 drops to 3 and the craziness went away. I've tried to go back up to 4 drops and can't do it. I start feeling overly sensitive again.

So my questions are: Do I stay at 3 drops and keep working to build up everything else? Will 3 drops do what it needs to do? I mean, obviously it's doing ~something~! Do I keep trying to up the Sida slowly with extra detoxing? (I tried charcoal between my doses and didn't notice it helping any and it's usually my lifesaver.) Do I trade the Sida for something else? I don't have Buhner's book right now, I borrowed it from the library, and I can't remember what he suggested if you react to Sida. I know some people have talked about UPPING their dose if they reacted and it helping... The idea scares me but I'd be willing to try it when my husband is home if that's actually something that could help...

So... Any suggestions? Ideas? Thoughts? Thanks!
Posted 6/19/2018 11:02 PM (GMT 0)
Sure sounds like die-off to me. I had some crazy anxiety & emotional tirades when i started killing off bartonella. I would hold at a dose that is manageable for you, then when the herxing reduces, add another drop of sida and taper up from there.
For detoxing, try a skin detox. Infrared saunas or epsom salt baths tend to be the go-to for lyme related infections
Posted 6/19/2018 11:22 PM (GMT 0)
I found cryptolepsis being more potent so I def recommend cryptolepsis. As for your mood...I think that is very common. These pathogens get into the brain and the die off just causes all of us to go crazy. I am currently on 40 drops of cryptolepsis twice a day. I have been doing babesia treatment for 3 years and no longer sweating and most of my symptoms have improved.
Posted 6/20/2018 1:27 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks!

I did do an epsom salt bath as well as the charcoal. I forgot about that but I did. It didn't seem to help either. sad I don't have access to a sauna anymore. Maybe the epsom salt bath and 4 drops would be ok... I was trying 6 drops when I did it and nothing was cutting it!

I'm glad your symptoms are improving! I'm taking 15 drops of cryptolepis 3x daily as well. I haven't noticed anything with that one though so I keep upping it every few days. Same with bidens pilosa.
Posted 6/20/2018 1:54 AM (GMT 0)
Stay at 3 drops for a while before trying to increase again.

In case you're not aware, sida acuta is also used for bartonella. Those emotional swings could possibly be from bartonella. Both babs and bart can cause emotional swings, but my impression is it's worse with bart.

I just increased sida from 3 drops to 4 about a week ago, and all kinds of old symptoms are coming back.
Posted 6/20/2018 3:16 AM (GMT 0)
With Sida Acuta die off I always have increased anxiety and emotional stuff, but I associated it with Bartonella die off. Not sure if you have been diagnosed with Bart. Cryptolepis has been more helpful with Babesia for me. My die off symptoms for Babesia is overwhelming fatigue where I need to nap like 3 times a day. With Sida I would wait a little longer before increasing dose. As your bacterial load reduces, the die off won’t be quite as severe. The emotional symptoms usually last me about 3 days. I just try to avoid interacting with people as much as possible during those days. I also take a calming supplements called “True Calm” by NOW Brand and it helps to calm down the anxiety. I feel it’s a good herb and would definitely continue with it if I were you. You could stop it for a few months and let the other herbs lower the load some so maybe when you take Sida again it won’t be as bad. That was the case for me with houttouynia... had a severe reaction to it at first and couldn’t take it. Tried again a few months later and it was better. Good luck!
Posted 6/21/2018 12:34 AM (GMT 0)
I've only been diagnosed with Lyme, I don't have a LLMD, so she didn't test for anything other than Lyme. I started treating babesia after wormwood helped my heart flutter, since I read that wormwood doesn't help heart flutters from other co-infections. I hadn't really considered bartonella... but I hadn't considered babesia until a few months ago either so... Maybe I just have it all... So fun! ;)
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