Need encouragement

Hi Ticsic,

Sorry to hear about the hormones. Since you have already healed I bet you can do it again! Think about the best times during those 6 years.

I'm sure we've all been pressured into doing things by our doctors that we didn't really want to do. Is there a naturopath near you that might have a bit of a better idea on what to do with vaccine reactions to get you back to health sooner?

What route did you go the first time for healing?

~beth

Nice, glad to hear you have a team.

Minocycline is pretty decent drug. What are your main symptoms this time around? Are they similar to your last go around with lyme?

I'm sorry you are back but if there is any advice we can offer you we will do it! A lot times people have to switch routes when they plateau in treatment or try different things. Do you have any gene mutations? I'm just curious with the reaction to the vaccine? We had a few members awhile back that had serious trouble treating and it turns out they had a MTHFR mutation. Once they added in supplements to address that they lyme became much easier to treat.

That lyme always has tricks up its sleeve, but the members on this site have a lot of information!

~beth

Opugirl thank you!

This time it's different than ever before.

I have neurological symptoms. My eyes went first. Colors got all distorted and I got extreme light sensitivity. I can't write and my hands tremor. My legs burn. Feet swell. Those are completely new. I've been afraid it's from the vaccine. I can't move much. Lost a ton of weight and have no appetite. I wish I could eat anything I want. I'd probably gain some weight back. Oh and the anxiety and depression is AWFUL!

Last time I could do some things. Not now.

I have MTHFR. My doc said the worse combination. I wish I had that really explained to me. Although I've been adamant about turning down being vaccinated. I was so sick that day I wasn't on my game. I was there for possible bronchitis and she gave me the shot while sick. I can't understand it.

I take supplements for the MTHFR. I hope they help. I'm just so sensitive to the meds it's hard to take enough to cover all the bases.

If you could inform me of what I should and shouldn't do with detox issues in the future I would appreciate it!

Let me go back and look through some of my notes with detoxing and mthfr. In general detoxing is always a good idea!

Your situation perplexes me though - I feel like there is something else (not that it isn't lyme) but with the gene mutation other things can amplify symptoms pretty significantly. Your hormones I'm guessing in some sense are not regular. Have you had thyroid/adrenal checked and menopause is not an issue?

Still thinking....

If I knew I'd definitely tell you- there is just something that seems off. Why did your obgyn play with your hormones? Call it witchcraft - there is just something nagging at me about it!

Do you like your functional dr? Were they the ones that got you back to health the first time?

I'm not sure the vaccine would cause Lyme to come back. I have been getting flu shots every season since having Lyme and it has been helpful for me.

It sounds like the Lyme wasn't fully eradicated if every several years it keeps coming back. If you've recovered from it before you'll be able to do it again.

You can look at this occurrence in a positive light, now you know not to trust all doctors. It's a learning experience for all of us. Don't worry. Start by looking into natural/alternative treatments. Buhner, Dr. Cowden, Dr. Zhang, etc. They all have very good protocols for these kinds of infections. Second, Detox, detox, detox. Third, find a really good Naturopathic Physician, who is very experienced with treating these kinds of infections. They will help you to reduce the internal inflammation within your body, which is most likely why you are feeling bad again. A good Naturopathic Physician will also help you improve your diet and fix your gut. That is so important, you wouldn't imagine. All these things will strengthen your immune system again so that you can fight off these infections. Lastly, the people above that I mentioned all talk about botanicals and other supplements that can be used to kill these infections, but I can't stress enough that the first 3 above are the most important to healing from these infections. Then, going after them directly will be more effective, that is if you need to do that once you do the first three above.

Keep your head up, you can do this. The first steps are always the most difficult. Smile, and keep saying to yourself, I will get better. Even better than that, I AM BETTER! Keep saying it everyday. It will happen.

Best wishes, and God bless! ;)

Post Edited (Justin01) : 6/25/2018 9:37:03 PM (GMT-6)

Did you get him tested for the Gene ? If not its just guessing there are many other common reasons With these diseases its so complex. I would ask Dr Charles Ray Jones the expert Pediatrician, He was at ground zero when Lyme was first diagnosed and has treated over 15,000 children.

Also great summary Justin !

Remember, when you kill large amounts of these bugs off at one time you will Herx more. The symptom of anxiety is just one of your weak areas in your body that these bugs cause indirectly. It just means that they settled in an area within your body that they caused to become inflamed, causing these symptoms. Usually, it is related to over production of cortisol (think adrenal glands and its hormones). Additionally, they can get into the brain and cause anxiety as well. Stress, both mental/emotions, and physical (due to the inflammatory state that these bugs cause) will tax all your hormones, especially the adrenal hormones. Too much cortisol will cause you to be in a Fight or Flight state (remember that from high school biology?). It the cortisol goes up too much, it will then effect your blood pressure (elevate it) and your sugar levels (elevates it due to cortisol acting as a quick energy to your body - once again the 'Fight or Flight' state). Cortisol also elevates to help squash inflammation. Also, a blood test isn't a great test for cortisol. A 4-point salivary test is much better.

The most important areas to start is to support the body's detoxing abilities. Then, reduce the inflammation. Next, increase your immune system function (this will happen with the first two), and then you can decide to directly go after the bugs if you like. It all takes time for your body to readjust again, and to start functioning optimals to that it can effectively fight these things off.

Interesting tidbit, there have been studies that demonstrate statisically that everyone carries these stealth pathogens in their bodys, but they don't become an issue until you wear down your body from both mental/emotions and physical stress. Many times, people develop symptoms from these infections after a major stressful event in their lives (hence, weakened state). Some people biologically are able to fight these infections off better than others. That's why we need to bring our bodies' back to optimal performance so that it can fight these infections off much more efficiently. There are many reasons behind this, but I would need to write a book on this response to get into it in the detail that is needed to explain it further.

Best wishes, and God bless!

Post Edited (Justin01) : 6/26/2018 8:49:27 AM (GMT-6)