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Posted 8/10/2018 2:07 PM (GMT 0)
Has anyone taken a 1 or 2 day break from Rifampin? Horrendous herx that doesn’t let up, especially the anxiety......again. Sigh! I figured it might take down the toxin load along with mega detoxing.

Patty
Posted 8/10/2018 2:23 PM (GMT 0)
I'm taking 6 days a week, but I did start by taking it 4 days a week for a few months.

What are you taking with it?
Posted 8/10/2018 3:02 PM (GMT 0)
I take it on an empty stomach with water at 7am and 6pm along with another dozen or so pills.

I don't think a few days off will hurt if you are feeling that bad.
Posted 8/10/2018 3:53 PM (GMT 0)
I took Rifampin in 2016 for bartonella. It's powerful stuff.

I had severe psychological dissonance after starting it.

I know it was probably a "psychological" herx but it changed my personality and I became very unstable and manic. But I always become moody when I take ABX, yet rifampin was a much stronger instigator.

I stopped rifampin and my personality returned to normal and depression lifted.

Anyway, I think you're right. It's a good idea to stop dosing if you are herxing. Just take your time, take a recess from ABX, detox, return to baseline health, and start again. Work with your body, not against it.

Now that I've been in the game for a few years (getting better, though) I always take a break from herbs or ABX as soon as I herx. Then I detox, return to normal, and start the herb/ABX again. I can usually quell a herx by nightfall with proper detox.

Good Luck!

-TheLymePiper

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https://www.thelymepiper.com/

Post Edited (TheLymePiper) : 8/10/2018 9:56:39 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 8/10/2018 3:57 PM (GMT 0)

summer16 said...
Has anyone taken a 1 or 2 day break from Rifampin? Horrendous herx that doesn’t let up, especially the anxiety......again. Sigh! I figured it might take down the toxin load along with mega detoxing.

Patty

I took rifampin on M/W/F dosing with two other abx.

A break is fine
Posted 8/10/2018 6:18 PM (GMT 0)
I'm currently on it and taking 600mg at night 2 hours after any food and 1 hour before dinner every day and have good and bad days but bearable. I have been detoxing religiously along with it.

Is it better to take 300mg AM then 300mg PM or take a pulse all at once 600mg at one time (as I am doing now)? And for taking it at one time, is it better to take it in the AM or PM?
Posted 8/10/2018 8:38 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you all. I have the mthfr gene but do take methyl assist and B-Right for it prescribed by my functional medical chiropractor. My LLMD goes slow and steady with me.
I am on 150 mg Rifampin twice daily and Azithromycin 250 mg twice daily. I guess it will be awhile before I up the Rifampin.
Girlie, I did read you had a horrible time with Rifampin. How lucky my did it take to feel better?
It is very difficult to be this sick because I am my husband’s caretaker. He had a brain bleed 4 years ago and needs quite a bit of my attention. Very stressful.

Patty
Posted 8/10/2018 11:15 PM (GMT 0)

summer16 said...
Thank you all. I have the mthfr gene but do take methyl assist and B-Right for it prescribed by my functional medical chiropractor. My LLMD goes slow and steady with me.
I am on 150 mg Rifampin twice daily and Azithromycin 250 mg twice daily. I guess it will be awhile before I up the Rifampin.
Girlie, I did read you had a horrible time with Rifampin. How lucky my did it take to feel better?
It is very difficult to be this sick because I am my husband’s caretaker. He had a brain bleed 4 years ago and needs quite a bit of my attention. Very stressful.

Patty

At first I herxed - my LLND had me start with half dose - so 300 mg per day - but I decided to split the capsule and take approx 150 mg per day for about a week.

Then 300 mg once daily for a month I think before 300 mg twice daily.

It was harsh at first but then it settled down.

That must be a challenge for you to be helping your husband. Is he going to be okay?
Posted 8/10/2018 11:18 PM (GMT 0)

xpeetzax said...
I'm currently on it and taking 600mg at night 2 hours after any food and 1 hour before dinner every day and have good and bad days but bearable. I have been detoxing religiously along with it.

Is it better to take 300mg AM then 300mg PM or take a pulse all at once 600mg at one time (as I am doing now)? And for taking it at one time, is it better to take it in the AM or PM?

It depends on the Dr.

I have seen more 300 mg twice daily than 600 once.
Posted 8/11/2018 2:11 PM (GMT 0)
Girlie, thanks for asking about my husband. His brain bleed was in 2014. He seems to be getting a bit worse lately and will have further testing on Monday. There will be no further improvement. He needs much redirection. He’s a loving, kind man and the love of my life. I have such guilt when I am down for the count and get a bit tart. I have 2 great children who are always there for us so I am blessed.
Posted 8/11/2018 3:27 PM (GMT 0)
i've consistently had the situation where i stop taking an abx and then the day after i get whacked. this has subsided over time. clearly something is going on when you withdraw from abx in the body. not sure what ;o)
Posted 8/11/2018 4:48 PM (GMT 0)
Why not try cutting the dose in half? Either just take one dose per day or take half of a capsule. Might be a good place to start so you would still maintain a level of the antibiotic in your bloodstream
Posted 8/11/2018 8:18 PM (GMT 0)

summer16 said...
Girlie, thanks for asking about my husband. His brain bleed was in 2014. He seems to be getting a bit worse lately and will have further testing on Monday. There will be no further improvement. He needs much redirection. He’s a loving, kind man and the love of my life. I have such guilt when I am down for the count and get a bit tart. I have 2 great children who are always there for us so I am blessed.


We all get a bit snippy now and then and I’m sure your caring and compassion shines through it all - he is fortunate to have you and your children helping him.
Hopefully the testing doesn’t show more damage.
You’re in my thoughts.
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