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Posted 9/9/2018 12:37 AM (GMT 0)
Has anyone had the CD57 Striker test done? Did it show whether you have Lyme Disease? Thanks for any information.
Posted 9/9/2018 5:40 AM (GMT 0)
Its usually just called cd57. Many here in the past have done this, there are posts about it every month or so.

"A below-normal count has been associated with chronic Lyme disease by the work of Dr. Raphael Stricker and Dr. Edward Winger." :

http://www.ppt-health.com/lyme-disease-basics/the-cd57-striker-panel-test/

The site listed above is a little to excited over this test. Its out right wrong actually. It has been found that other issues can also result in low cd57 immune cell measurement. Some people are in fact born this way.

IT CANNOT BE USED as diagnosis. In some people it can be used repeatedly to show progress during treatment. Even that has flaws since there are many who feel cured but still have low CD 57.

Low CD 57 shows that you do indeed have some low immune cells, but not necessarily from lyme.

I do find it an interesting test since I've also had many other more specific immune cells tests that are also still low - and I dont have any more lyme symptoms.
Posted 9/9/2018 2:40 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you so much for the information and prompt reply. I keep getting tested but nothing seems to indicate Lyme disease. Just wish I could find a way to get someone to tell me why I hurt so much, keep having things go wrong with my body, why am I so tired all the time??? Just tired and hoping for an answer from someone. Thanks again.
Posted 9/9/2018 3:04 PM (GMT 0)
Im not discrediting CD57, it might be good to do because if you are low you know your immune cells are low and thats not good - if shown repeated times. This test just cannot by itself diagnose Lyme, but it can be part of the puzzle.

On the opposite side, if your CD57 is well into the normal range I would doubt you had lyme. If your CD57 was elevated, that could mean some types of cancer.

Some times its a puzzle of little clues put together with a time line and you likelihood of being near ticks.

Important points:
-Tic bite(s), bulseye rash, having seen tics crawling on you, or avid outdoors person
-a time line of above with symptom following
-most of lyme's bacteria eventually leaves the blood and settles into soft (white) tissues away from blood's immune cells, this can be months or years from the bite time.
Posted 9/9/2018 3:22 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you for the information In 2007 I found a tick on my abdomen, removed it, several days later had the classic bulls eye rash. Could not get in to see my dr., failed to take a picture, rash disappeared--end of that part of the tale. Immunoblot shows negative, I did the Cd57 on my own, 214 for cb57 number which is normal. May not be Lyme disease. I hurt in all my large joints, hurt in muscle and fascia, don't remember as well as I once did, have problems with my voice and some hearing loss, now having things with my eyes (wrinkle on retina) I am 62 years old. Hypothyroid, chronic myofascial pain syndrome, thoracic outlet syndrome, cervical degenerative disc disease, bilateral shoulder impingement, osteoarthritis in back and knees, fibromyalgia, hypertension, high cholesterol, high triglycerides, depression all were diagnosed prior to the tick bite, also bilateral carpal tunnel pain, post surgery.

I hurt, I don't think and remember as well as I once did--just my doctor to help me be able to live life without hurting so much. I imagine you are the same--hurt sitting, walking, standing, laying, don't sleep well, my mind is slow to comprehend---just so frustrating. I hope that your new regimen will give you relief and that your pain decreases daily! Best to you.
Posted 9/9/2018 4:12 PM (GMT 0)
Healthy cd57 now, but "classic bulls eye rash" in 2007...hmm. The bullseye pretty much say that you had lyme in 2007.

Did the bullseye increase in size?

If I were you, id goggle "normal CD57 with positive western blot" or "positive lyme test".

As you know, often lyme comes with some other tick illness to. You could have any of the other tick illnesses that are not associated with low CD 57.

I dont know what other tests you had, I'm assuming you already asked about those in other posts.

As you are finding out, non of this is very concrete.
Posted 9/9/2018 4:17 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for the response and support! I will keep trying. Going to see my PCP and discuss all the pain and other problems and see what he can think of--wish me luck!
Posted 9/9/2018 7:12 PM (GMT 0)
PCP's did nothing for me. It was hard enough just finding ones that were open minded enough to do test I selected. Id ware one dr out and go to the next one slowly crossing ideas off my list. Most want to just rx drugs which was not my choice.

Learning myofacial release for any will body pain can help. Certain pt's and chiros do this too but the cost adds up.
Posted 9/9/2018 7:25 PM (GMT 0)

curious74432 said...
Thank you for the information In 2007 I found a tick on my abdomen, removed it, several days later had the classic bulls eye rash. Could not get in to see my dr., failed to take a picture, rash disappeared--end of that part of the tale. Immunoblot shows negative, I did the Cd57 on my own, 214 for cb57 number which is normal. May not be Lyme disease. I hurt in all my large joints, hurt in muscle and fascia, don't remember as well as I once did, have problems with my voice and some hearing loss, now having things with my eyes (wrinkle on retina) I am 62 years old. Hypothyroid, chronic myofascial pain syndrome, thoracic outlet syndrome, cervical degenerative disc disease, bilateral shoulder impingement, osteoarthritis in back and knees, fibromyalgia, hypertension, high cholesterol, high triglycerides, depression all were diagnosed prior to the tick bite, also bilateral carpal tunnel pain, post surgery.

I hurt, I don't think and remember as well as I once did--just my doctor to help me be able to live life without hurting so much. I imagine you are the same--hurt sitting, walking, standing, laying, don't sleep well, my mind is slow to comprehend---just so frustrating. I hope that your new regimen will give you relief and that your pain decreases daily! Best to you.

Bullseye rash IS lyme disease. If you didn't treat it - it won't go away. You certainly have 'enough' symptoms besides the bullseye to warrant treating. Some of those symptoms appeared prior to the tick bite? Maybe you had a tick bite earlier and didn't know.
You need a LLMD.
Posted 9/9/2018 10:23 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for the insight on this.
Posted 9/10/2018 12:31 AM (GMT 0)
Not everyone has low CD57 with lyme.

That may be why not all LLMD's test for it.
Posted 9/10/2018 3:43 AM (GMT 0)
When I first tested positive for Lyme and a couple of coinfections my cd57 was 30. A few months later when I was at my sickest it was 12. It has steadily gone up with a minor setback here and there. Last week the cd57 was 70 ... highest it has been in a year and a half. Coinfection tests were both negative and Lyme was indeterminate.

For me the cd57 number has absolutely mirrored how I have felt and the Lyme, etc test results.
Posted 9/10/2018 3:55 AM (GMT 0)

mareish said...
When I first tested positive for Lyme and a couple of coinfections my cd57 was 30. A few months later when I was at my sickest it was 12. It has steadily gone up with a minor setback here and there. Last week the cd57 was 70 ... highest it has been in a year and a half. Coinfection tests were both negative and Lyme was indeterminate.

For me the cd57 number has absolutely mirrored how I have felt and the Lyme, etc test results.

Ah ha... Yes, thats how it was thought to work with every lymie, and why this test was once thought to hold a little more weight than it does now. My initial comment mentions the pros and cons to this test.
Posted 9/10/2018 4:13 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks, Astroman, for this and all of the other valuable info you post.
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