Been awhile / let’s talk new treatments & herbals ?

I like Buhner's protocol, which is not new (he has tweaked it over time) but I think is a good one in general. Gou teng is one of my favorite herbs.

Rawls' protocol also seems very good and similar to Buhner's protocol, but it seems more pricey.

Otherwise I hear some people have good success with bee venom therapy if they stick with it.

cappuccinocurls said...
Anyone done the full cowden protocol ?

I just finished month 5 of Cowden. Doing pretty good. Muscle and Nerve pain mostly gone. Brain fog and memory much improved.

I had some interesting reactions when I got to the Parasite herbs in month 4 so in talking to my LLMD she recommended Klinghardt's parasite protocol.

I tried to start last month but was not physically nor mentally prepared for the die off. So I decided to go one more month on Cowden and prep prior. Ready with my DE to mop up the heavy metals.

I'm only stopping Cowden to get through 1 Cycle of this new Protocol and I'll start back up again.

It's very well organized which was very helpful early on. I like the fact that you get exposed to all kinds of herbs but I think I'll ramp up a bit with extra doses.

cappuccinocurls said...
Hi all! It’s been a long time since I posted. I’ve been treating now 4 + years. Seems like an insane amount of time.

I’m interested in hearing any new treatments folks are trying, and or if anyone had success moving from abx to strictly herbals (and what protocol?). As much as lower doses of abx keep me stable now I also know this is not good on my body long term and I’m concerned.

I need a new LLMD too ... I may post separate but does anyone have experience with CHK supplements ? I’ve been using them for a year + with great results but I’m annoyed I can ONLY buy through the LLMD I want to transition away from ... I can’t buy from any supplement site. So that’s a conundrum I face too

Ideas ?

Current symptoms - neuro has improved a decent amount (I teach yoga and meditate and I actually think That has done more good than any med has)

The biggest is still joint pain, achy muscles, major knots in muscles (seeing an osteopath for that) and pure EXHAUSTION and anxiety.

So you still have those symptoms while you’re taking the antibiotics? Or when you stop?

What was your treatment for Bart and Babs?

I recommend the lymogen and borreliagen simple and effective. I bought it was feeling so good on it but then my anxiety flared so bad I had to quit because I can not take klonipin with skullcap will go back soon I hope.

Hi all,

Borrelogen was one of the remedies I took over 12 years ago along with Neuro-Antitox CNS/PNS (after 3 months or so I switched the Borrelogen with Microbojen). I healed (or whatever word one wants to use) from this protocol which I followed from Dr. Jernigan's book "Beating Lyme"...

Here is what Dr. Jernigan stated about Borrelogen (I was curious to why the Borrelogen made me feel soooooooo much better!!!):

* I presented research on Borrelogen in 1999 at the International Tick-borne Diseases Conference in New York City, where 500 of the top infectious disease researchers and doctors met to present and discuss research on LD. As far as I know, the research I did of my formulation called Borrelogen is still the only real laboratory verified research out there that documents via blood tests that a natural remedy even works. Remember though, Borrelogen is not treating any disease or bacteria…it is supporting the little-known bioenergetic immune system. That research can be read in my book, Beating Lyme Disease, 2nd edition.

* In that research we used a LUAT test, that essentially is a urine test where the lab counts how many pieces of dead Lyme spirochete bacteria were found in the patient’s urine, usually after a week of taking antibiotics.

A positive LUAT was where the lab found 32 pieces of dead Lyme bacteria in your first morning urine. A highly positive test was if the lab found 45 pieces of dead Lyme bacteria.

After our patients took 1 dropper TID of Borrelogen for a week almost all of the LUAT tests were between 100 to greater than 400 which is where the lab quits counting!

The bioenergetic immune system of the body was able to kill off massive amounts of the bacteria. (Due to the frequencies produced by the body as a result of the installation of the new “software” from the remedy.)

hansacenter.com/listen-to-dr-jernigans-interview-on-chronic-lyme-disease-on-lyme-light-radio (if one is interested in listening to the interview it doesn't work on this site but on another site which I could post)...

But it wasn't only the remedies that helped heal me, it was detoxing (detox baths that included Epsom salts and hydrogen peroxide, foot detox baths, dry skin brushing, coffee enema's, infra-red sauna, etc.) plus changing my diet and another important aspect was addressing my stress levels!

Bottom line: I believe one needs to address body, mind, and spirit in order to heal as they are all connected and if one doesn't address all 3 of these then they may have problems.

This is what worked for me and I'm still doing great!!

Denise

Did you ever receive a reply from charmcitylady about her diagnosis? curious because I have exact symptoms as she explained but she doesn’t say what her diagnosis was

Hi, alexalex,

I see you are new here. Welcome to the forum. If you'd like, you could make a new post in a new thread, introducing yourself. In one post, you said that you have had Lyme, but in others you talk about your boyfriend having it. Feel free to tell us your stories.

I notice you offer in every post to put people in touch with practitioners. I am glad that you found some folks who were helpful for your boyfriend. We all live in different places around the world, so people are unlikely to be interested without knowing if they are in the same region as you, so you could include location information just in case someone wants it. Also, we can't say the full names of practitioners here, only initials, so it would be helpful for you to have your email address enabled in your profile, if you want people to be able to reach you directly for that information.

Finally, I'm sure many of us would be interested in knowing more about the treatment you said was effective for your boyfriend so quickly. Are all of his symptoms gone now? Which types of treatment did he try, and which were most helpful? It's great that you found his practitioner helpful, but since most of us probably don't live near you, it would be great if you could share what the practitioner recommended and what made them so helpful!

Thanks, and welcome again.