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Posted 9/26/2018 1:25 PM (GMT 0)
Hi,

just finished a course of 4 different abx for bartonella and lyme, plus malarone (750mg x2 day) and primaquine for babesia. I had to stop the abx due to yeast overgrowth, but was adviced by my LLMD to continue the babesia treatment for 4 full months. I'm at 2 months so far.

I did 2 months of malarone and zith 4 years ago. Great effect, got rid of all my nightsweats and airhunger.

After starting it again with abx; airhunger, heavy breathing and nightsweats have returned, so I kinda regret starting it again..And my headpressure was unbearable. Also feeling of my brain is on fire, but maybe that's bartonella related..

Questions:

Could headpressure be caused by lyme or bartonella?

After continuing with only malarone my headpressure is back to "normal". Will malarone alone have any effect at all? Or am I better off starting babesia herbs?

Maybe continue malarone and do babesia herbs in addition?

Just not sure if I wanna continue if I feel i'm not getting any better at this point. And also as it is very expensive.

Posting my resent babesia test result: (2 months old).

Detection of babesia - antibodies (AB) in immunofluorescence assay (IFA):

Babesia microti IgG-AB Titer: 1:128 Ref. range: <1:64 Reactivity: positive
IgM-AB Titer: <1:16 Ref. range: <1:16 reactivity: negative

Babesia divergens: IgG-AB Titer: <1:16 Ref. range: <1:16 reactivity: negative

Comment:

Babesia microti
We detected IgG-antibodies against Babesia microti, IgM-antibodies currently not detected. This is a
serological indication for a past infection.

Babesia divergens
Currently no IgG-antibodies against Babesia divergens detected. There is no serological indication for a
past infection. If symptoms stay distinct we suggest a titer control in 3-4 weeks.
IgM-AB: A test system for the detection of the IgM-antibodies against babesia divergens is currently not
available.


Thank you!
Posted 9/26/2018 4:16 PM (GMT 0)
Well, it could be that the combo of malarone plus the other meds is working synergestically and really hitting your babesia, in effect causing lots of herxing. The malarone by itself might not be as effective...

Head pressure is often related to babesia, it's def one of the main symptoms I get when I take anti-babesia meds. Burning pain for me was often connected to lyme/bart.

I think doing malarone plus herbs could be a good option. I recommend checking out Buhner's coinfections book (the one on babesia). It has some very solid protocols in there. Another herb he has recently mentioned for babesia is nauclea latifolia, I've tried it and it def seems to work well, pretty strong for me.

It can take a while to treat babesia, I hope you can find the right treatments and right pacing of treatments so that they don't burn you out. Air hunger and head pressure are awful symptoms, I really hate them. I also get really bad anxiety when my air hunger gets bad.
Posted 9/26/2018 5:14 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you, sebreg!

I think it will take a few weeks for me to get the babesia herbs. You think it will be ok to stop until i get them, and then continue on malarone with herbs? Or will it be a problem to stop malarone?

Just don't see the point continuing if it's not as effective.

Is this the book btw?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1620552582/ref=dbs_a_w_dp_1620552582
Posted 9/26/2018 8:00 PM (GMT 0)
Yup, that's the book! I discovered a few herbs in there that I've found effective, including dan shen. I'm also trying out ashwagandha and motherwort, and like I mentioned trying nauclea latifolia. He also lists various herbs for some of the symptoms you mention, p.94-5. I've been trying to work in some of the other herbs from the babesia protocol, and also supplementing with l-arginine. L-arginine helps produce NO in the body, which supposedly inhibits babesia growth.

Eh, in the grand scheme I don't think it's a huge deal to take a break from the malarone for a few weeks. But it might be worth talking to your doctor, because the malarone might be keeping things at bay as well, even if it doesn't seem too effective at the moment...
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