Skype Consult with Dr N N

Has anyone here done a Skype consult with Dr N? He offers stand alone “advice” sessions for $500 (!!) an hour. Has it been helpful? I am in Kansas City, bedridden for years with Lyme/Babs/Bart/mold, live alone with 24/7 care, and do not have a doc experienced enough to help. I could have my mother Skype with dr Nathan but that is a lot to shell out for a one time appointment.

I’ve made some mild progress with Buhner, but need more comprehensive guidance.

Thank you!

Post Edited By Moderator (Girlie) : 11/29/2018 7:22:23 PM (GMT-7)

Resurrection - sorry to read that you have been bed-ridden for a couple of years.


I personally haven't heard of Dr. N. Hopefully one of our members has and can give you some information.

Thank you all for your responses. I have not tolerated oral antibiotics, but I also have not had a doc that I trusted prescribe them. I’m unable to travel at this time. I just completed another ERMI, but I have already left two moldy environments in the past and I did not feel better upon leaving with no belongings. I have done cortisol testing (saliva test used to be normal but I could no linger afford my doc and I’m thinking it is low now...I’m now taking a glandular and that has helped me a little).

I’m familiar with shoemaker. My doc has ordered all of his tests, but I honestly don’t know how much help they’ll be — my urine assays are all positive for the past four years so I already know there’s an issue. I can not tolerate the die off from the BEG spray — and I already take tons of binders, glutathione, daily sauna, etc.

I’ve worked with Buhner’s partner for over a year. I don’t think she has many more suggestions for me.

I’m really looking for some help with Bartonella and Babesia and tolerating the mold stuff - and what to target first. I also need help implementing things. My caregivers do not understand. I say “coffee enema” and they say “no way!” I have my mother to help but she is overloaded with many other tasks to keep my life afloat (I shouldn’t be living alone...but no family is willing to take me in).

I have an infected tooth that I’m getting pulled by a biological dentist next week — it will be a super tough appointment bc I haven’t left my home in so many years. Fingers crossed that helps things a bit!

Anyway, I’m really just looking for experience with Dr N. His book is the first one to really understand me — even more so than Buhner’s it Horowitz’s.

Thanks!

Post Edited By Moderator (Girlie) : 11/29/2018 7:23:06 PM (GMT-7)

Resurrection,

Sounds like you have already done a lot and are very knowledgeable. You didn’t mention cholestyramine specifically as a binder, but I assume you’re familiar if you know Shoemaker stuff.

FYI, Shoemaker isn’t using BEG spray anymore for MARCONS. It’s too harsh and has side effects. Now he’s using a colloidal silver/EDTA spray. I’ve never used either.

I don’t tolerate abx very well, either. I’ve been doing Buhner’s herbs for a year and a half. Can’t really say how much progress I’ve made. I’m very sensitive and take tiny doses still. I think I have gut pathogens that are making my inflammation so difficult. Twice now, I have expelled stuff that seems like “ropeworm.” I had good relief of symptoms (mainly joint pain and muscle fatigue) briefly afterwards, but it didn’t last.

Great you got to work with Buhner’s partner, but sorry you haven’t made real progress. Considering what you have already done and the severity of your condition, it may be worth the $500, if you choose to do it. My biggest concern in paying any of these “experts” for a phone consult is they may talk for an hour, take your money, and never really answer your questions or listen to what you need to say.

I'm glad to hear you connected with the book. Given that you connect with his work it may be worth pursuing. Like WalkingbyFaith mentioned the concern is that he may talk for an hour and take your money and not answer much. Do you know how much follow-ups cost? But honestly, given that you connect more with his work in relation to your health than others like Buhner/Horowitz, it may be worth the risk. Any possibility that Dr N offers a sliding scale?

Have you looked into MCAS? Lonnie Marcum wrote some good articles. I just googled it and it seems Dr N has familiarity with it. A lot of the people I trust when it comes to lyme seem to have a lot of respect for him.

Post Edited By Moderator (Girlie) : 11/30/2018 1:56:37 AM (GMT-7)

Ah gotcha, that's a shame. I wonder if he can recommend practitioners to work with who use some of his treatment philosophy.

Fingers crossed, hope the tooth removal will help!!

Resurrection there are better more well known LLMD's that you can Skype with for similar fees and work with over time. This drive by one time cost is sketchy to me and smells like a money grab. Sure he might be knowledgeable but that's not the type of care you need.

Dr. J in DC will tell you that babesia is the pathogen that will keep u sick and not allow you to make much progress against lyme, bart or other pathogens. You need to beat it into the ground good and hard to get anywhere else. It was true for me and others I know when I went to see Dr. J after two other so called prominent LLMD's.

It's very tough to figure out how to help you given your bedridden. You'd have to have some arrangement of working with a remote LLMD who will partner with your local doc for tests, etc. Of course this is all going to be quite pricey.

I edited just to change the name of the LLMD in the posts to initials only.

Have you thought about trying DNRS? I know N N is a big fan. I bought it - mainly for MCS. I started it but have a hard time remembering the steps. If really does seem to work well for so many people.

k07 said...
Have you thought about trying DNRS? I know N N is a big fan. I bought it - mainly for MCS. I started it but have a hard time remembering the steps. If really does seem to work well for so many people.

Girlie said...
I looked into it awhile back- did you get the basic pkg?

MCS - mast cell?

I’ve thought it might calm things down in my CNS - it’s been whacked out for so long

Multiple Chemical Sensitivity. Yes, the basic package.

Since we moved out of our house in NC and also got rid of our mattress, I notice that when I go in certain stores (mostly clothing stores, home decor stores) my face will go numb. It's really weird and I wonder if I didn't notice it so clearly before because there was something in our old house or due to sleeping on the memory foam mattress. I no longer have the creepy crawly nerve issues all night long. I am actually shocked that a mattress could cause me so many issues - although in my heart I knew it was a problem because I itched like crazy for 6 months when we got it. My husband had no issues and loved it. We also finished our basement and when I go down there it will go numb. I'm doing LDI/LDA and it gets better for about 3 weeks but then comes back. DNRS is supposed to be good for MCS. The problem is she gives a set of steps and I keep forgetting and I get frustrated. I practiced it like 50 times and still can't remember it. I can't be the only one with short term memory issues doing this program! So I haven't gotten past Day 3 on the DVD!

WalkingbyFaith said...
Resurrection,

I just searched through your previous posts. I thought I remembered you were the one who mentioned thinking of doing a Skype with NN. Did you ever do it?

Yes and it was great! It was before this slump though....back when I though LDN was a miracle worker! He’s set up a 6-9 month plan for me to deal with Bart and mold. But I have to stabilize on LDN now first.