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Posted 12/15/2018 3:03 PM (GMT 0)
Finally got ahold of some A-bab. Been wanting to try this one for a while. Really gives me a strong herx, which was surprising because at this point most herbal treatments don't do much for my babesia. I used to herx like crazy to even a smidge of antiprotozoal herbs when I first started treatment (couple drops of crypto was like a lightning bolt to my head!). In a way A-bab's effectiveness is a pleasant surprise, always nice to find non-pharma options that work. Feeling closer and closer to remission, still a little ways to go, but progressing slowly but surely.

On a sidenote, I was recently able to play full-court basketball for the first time in 15 years without feeling worse afterwards! I used to have such terrible exercise intolerance, symptoms would blow up for up to a week if I exerted myself, especially cardio. Never thought I'd be able to get back to basketball, so it's a sort of physical and psychological victory in that respect smile
Posted 12/15/2018 4:04 PM (GMT 0)
Congratulations on improvement, Seberg. Positives seem to lead to more positives. My exercise intolerance comes in the form of spaciness after exertion, which, eventually, leads to a headache/migraine.

I tried A-Babs a year or so ago. It was doing something, but no matter how little I took, I could hardly function on it. Great you have found this option.
Posted 12/15/2018 4:22 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks running wild! the exercise intolerance always drove me mad because I have always loved sports/athletics and competing. As I've gotten better the last year and a half I was able to consistently start doing strength training (used to be unable to do this) but cardio was still problematic. Only in the last months has the cardio aspect been coming back which just feels awesome. It makes me feel like I'm close to escaping the talons of the illness! Plus I find exercising therapeutic, there is a luxury in finally being able to use my body for physical things when for so long I could barely get out of bed.

How are you doing with your treatments btw?

A-bab seems very effective for some people. But I have heard it can be too much for some patients, even at minor doses. The herxes hit my concentration very hard, this is one of the final symptoms I'm trying to knock out. Baseline has improved a lot, but the herxes are still a bit of a grind.
Posted 12/15/2018 7:36 PM (GMT 0)
Exercise is great because it helps deal with stress that comes with all this. If you have been physical all your life, taking it away is tough. I enjoy lifting and running, but have cut back heavily on it. I still do 150 push-ups each day and about 75 curls with low weight (20 pound dumbbells) plus some other exercises with them. Also walk/run about 30 minutes 5 times a week.

Some days the dizziness makes it tough to do, rather than weakness or pain. So happy to hear you are able to do the cardio more, which has huge benefits, mentally and physically. Understand about the herxes.

I also have developed kidney problems, thanks for Lyme and company. Never had high blood pressure in my life until about 5 years ago. That was after years of not being diagnosed correctly for Lyme Disease. So cardio is great for you.

Treatment gets confusing. Not sure what is Lyme and what is kidney. I've become a it paranoid about the symptoms being kidneys.

Going from where you were to where you are now is awesome.
Posted 12/16/2018 8:07 AM (GMT 0)
Sebreg - this is good news - getting closer to remission!!

I hope the A-Bab does the trick for you!!!
Posted 12/16/2018 2:16 PM (GMT 0)
Running wild, I'm sorry to hear it's been tough with the kidney problems. Have you found anything that helps? have the doctors been any help with that?

Girlie: Thanks so much! I think it can be one more good tool that helps me keep inching my way smile
Posted 12/16/2018 3:10 PM (GMT 0)
Awesome!!!

Funny what you said about cryto. Sida acuta hit me in the head like that. I still just take 5 drops of that one.

I finally tried crypto and artemesia a couple of months ago. I do well with crypto. No herx at 10 drops. Artemisia at 10 drops gave me mild head pressure.

When I started 18 months ago, I thought I would be on Buhner a year and switch to Byron White to make sure I got it all. At the rate I’m going it’ll be 2 years before I get there.
Posted 12/16/2018 3:22 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you WalkingbyFaith! That's interesting that sida acuta hit you so hard. Some of these herbs are quite strong.

But you have consistently been able to improve your baseline with the herbal therapies right? I think eventually rotating to Byron White would be a nice thing to try. It sounds like they are a bit stronger than some other herbal therapies, so hopefully as you keep whittling pathogen load it will make it easier when you try the BW formulas. I'm glad there are a lot of options out there, and like I mentioned really happy when I can find an effective non-pharma antimicrobial. A-bart didn't do much for me, the reaction to A-bab further convinces me I have to keep chipping away at the babesia.

It's a bummer treatment can take so long, what a slog! have to take it one day at a time, go at the pace we can manage. It's very mentally taxing though I must admit.
Posted 12/16/2018 4:50 PM (GMT 0)

WalkingbyFaith said...
Awesome!!!

Funny what you said about cryto. Sida acuta hit me in the head like that. I still just take 5 drops of that one.

I finally tried crypto and artemesia a couple of months ago. I do well with crypto. No herx at 10 drops. Artemisia at 10 drops gave me mild head pressure.

When I started 18 months ago, I thought I would be on Buhner a year and switch to Byron White to make sure I got it all. At the rate I’m going it’ll be 2 years before I get there.

WBF - have you tried any of the derivatives of Artemisia?
Posted 12/17/2018 2:46 PM (GMT 0)
I'm glad to hear that SebReg!
I did 2 months of Bab-1 and Bab-2 with no herx/results at all,
I'll ask for A-bab at my next appointment smile
Posted 12/17/2018 2:53 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks Alxander! always hit or miss with this stuff isn't it! I remember Rikky mentioning a while back that A-bab did nothing for his babesia, while for others A-bab hits them like a freight train. Never tried Bab-1 or 2, always been curious about those. I wish I could've only treated herbally, but alas I just don't think it was possible in my case. But to have powerful herbs on board is always nice, usually not as taxing on the system.

I hope you are hanging in there, hopefully doing lots of liver detoxing will prove helpful!
Posted 12/18/2018 11:20 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Sebreg!-

I wish you the very best and that the A-Bab helps you.

I had a really rough time on it. I never was able to get past 6 drops a day (3 drops morning and 3 drops in the evening). I always had to back down my dosage.

Just like you mentioned, I have read that for some people A-Bab does nothing and others have a rough time with it.

Please keep us updated.

Best Wishes!
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