Andy Cutler Cult update

Hey all got a little time today, so I thought I give an ACC update.

Stopped treating Lyme in Aug 2018 to focus on Heavy Metal detoxing using the Andy Cutler Chelation protocol. I was about 70% healed and had a reaction to a parasite protocol that lead me to suspect HM.

I made a decision a few months ago to leave all forums to focus on ACC. It's really needed at first so you don't get confused. However my head is clearer and I getting pretty well versed.. I still have my opinions on ILADS but we all need choose our own paths.

So ,, I guess you can say I’m a full fledged cult member. Not going to go into the particulars of the protocol since there’s a lot to it and it’s best not to dabble in it. You either need to go in 100% or not at all. There’s a lot of prep and learning.

Treatment Status:

Month 1: I was on the prep supplements for 1 month (all OTC) Most of these are just Vits and minerals that counteract mercury itself and to give your body what it needs. This along was almost enough to sell me on the protocol. I felt much better overall after about 2 weeks of these main supplements.

Got the all clear on Dental work in getting 2 mercury specks removed. One of which was festering in a previously in unknown cavity. I swear I felt better as soon as i stood up from the dental chair. This step is critical in you need all mercury removed prior to Chelation.

Months 2-4: Started to Chelate with DMPS and DMSA since you need to wait 3 months to use ALA.. One way to think of the D-Chelators as blood scrubbing the free roaming mercury. Did this for 12 weeks and body wise I felt like a champ . Like at times I could bench press a car.. Also cleared all my brain fog.

Month 5: Added ALA that is considered the big gun in that it crosses the BBB and Chelates mercury from your brain.. So this is where it gets tricky and why it can take several years to fully detox. Your need to go very slow. After a few rounds of trial and error I seem to have found my best dose for now. Which means I feel mostly good On round during the week and you need to stop and rest for 3 days and I feel not too bad off round.. I’m off round today and I can feel the effects of the Mercury redistributing as I type.. A little pressure headache but tolerable.

My position is even stronger now in that while I have or had Lyme, the immune suppressing that Mercury does is the cause of many of us who are chronically ill. Also Mercury symptoms and Lyme are almost identical.

Best part about ACC is the supplements AC determined as the Core and others as needed based on your mercury symptom.. Also most of us have learned now how to properly supplement our Adrenals to address CF and crashes. I’m sleeping way better, have way more energy and while I’m far from done I’m pretty high functioning.

Last I included a link below on a woman that co-wrote AC’s updated book for a good overview. I will warn you although she provides a good overview I’m by no a means recommending you try this based this information alone. She does offer consultation and I suppose it helps people who are too brain fogged to comprehend.

The Andy Cutler Chelation Facebook site is where we all hang out and where you learn the protocol . Also it’s very important to have that lifeline since Chelating is spooky and saying the protocol overwhelming at first is a understatement.

There's so much else I could say true but many of us don;t talk about this outside the forum. I suppose why we seem like a cult is that similar to Lyme our perspective of the world changes.. However once we start to get our minds back, it's hard to come to terms with how insidious the mercury situation is.

So it was this site that led me to Lyme and a random recommendation on this site that led me to ACC..

I’ll be forever grateful for that.

Mark

http://www.maybeitsmercury.com/

Post Edited (Mark FW) : 2/2/2019 3:43:17 PM (GMT-7)

So I think I have something I can share that many of you can relate to, Chronic Fatigue.

OK so this image below is from Dr Rinds website which is the ACC go-to for advanced Adrenal and Thyroid testing. .

What you do is take your Temp 3 times a day and plot the average. You can see in the example what the patterns mean. The ACC recommendation is that to stabilize your adrenals first, then if your Average temp is still below optimum (98.6F) the you focus on the Thyroid. First with Sups and then if needed HC..

Also the other image is mine. I mentioned I'm working on adrenals. I thought I did and have been feeling better but it is still inconsistent.. Although I feel better I still have mini crashes and during chelation it's important I support these puppies. Per the graph my adrenals are no where near as stable as I though they were


http://www.drrind.com/therapies/metabolic-temperature-graph#model

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Post Edited (Mark FW) : 2/2/2019 5:34:06 PM (GMT-7)

Ok so just to close on Adrenals this is the supplement most ACC folks take .. (There are others but higher dose and you need to be capable of taking 4 at a time to switch to a different brand) I;m not there yet

I can share more later but it's important that this is the version to take , there is another very close.. I can share the details on why and why others can be harmful in the long run.

I was up to 8 per day 2 ea at 3AM/6AM/9AM/Noon On 8 total I started to get jittery so I backed down to 6.. However I did ramp fast so it may be i need to go slower.

Note this is a animal product and is made from adrenal. Like eating lever to support your liver..

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Dmitry said...
I have a theory that treatment with ALA is actually an anti pathogen one - there is some studies showed that ALA is an anti bacterial, like https://www.researchgate.net/publication/278049812_Antimicrobial_Effect_of_Lipoic_Acid_Against_Cronobacter_sakazakii

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4633458/

So this is why it's sometimes best I don;t even talk about ACC. Sorry I dont have the details on that but AC was aware if that also.. but ALA is a very strong mercury Chelator (Meaning Mercury Binds to it) however it has only a 3 hr half Life so it looses it's bind that quick.

So i you take 100mg of ALA one a day your moving lots of mercury and then just dropping it. In many cases its in a sorta safe place prior and now it roaming and gets dropped in a bad place. I take 3 mg every 3 hrs and that in itself is pretty intense.

And yes it does also have many other properties and is very good for you if your Mercury free.. Most of us are not.

Hi Mark and also other healing well peeps - haven't been on here in a while, nice to see some familiar names!

I too have joined the ACC cult, been doing the protocol for 4 months now.

I was active here around 2 years ago. I had treated Lyme/mold for about 4 years with essential oils, herbs, Rife, and some antibiotics and antiparasite meds. I had gotten to maybe 80% well but felt I had sort of hit a wall in that I had some remaining jaw and neuro issues that seemed to resist all these modalities.

I took a 2 year break from treatment and went back to full time work. I kept taking 9 g monolaurin daily and I didn't experience any relapses. I think my body is pretty much healed as I was able to get into cycling and raced competitively the past couple of seasons.

I looked into ACC randomly and decided to give it a go this past fall. After a few months I think the root cause of my remaining jaw/neuro issues is mercury. There are probably some remaining infections there too but I think they've only managed to persist in these areas because of the immune suppression from heavy metal toxicity. I'm going to focus primarily on moving the mercury but have been doing occasional pulses with essential oils and other herbs to try to nuke any remaining bugs.

I initially started wayy to high - I figured I had managed to sweat out most of my mercury with regular sauna use in the decade since getting the amalgams removed - wrong. I took 50mg ALA every 3 hrs for 2 days and was a complete wreck, barely even sleeping for the next week.

I backed way down to 5mg ALA 5mg DMSA and was on that for a while. Currently on round 12 with 8mg ALA 12mg DMSA.

I think my adrenals are the weak link in this process - mobilizing the mercury just shuts them down completely. Hoping that if I get on hydrocortisone temporarily I might be able to push through this a bit quicker.

As for progress so far, my general anxiety levels have been reduced a lot. Also feel more clear headed. I've had some moments of super heightened perceptions, extremely clear sounding audio, vision, etc after a round with ALA. Breathing through my nose has gotten easier and I can feel stuff detoxing from my jaw - it's necessitated a lot of sauna use.

Finally starting to get optimistic that I can approach 100% well. Focusing on treating the infections got me most of the way here but for the past two years I had sort of given up on getting any better.

It's too bad there isn't more cross pollination between these groups. There are clearly people in the ACC FB group whose progress is stalled because they are ignoring mold/Lyme/parasites.

project said...


I think my adrenals are the weak link in this process - mobilizing the mercury just shuts them down completely. Hoping that if I get on hydrocortisone temporarily I might be able to push through this a bit quicker.

My kidney were in TERRIBLE shape but I really turned it around with an herbal protocol

Rhodiola

schisandra

uva ursi

astragalus

tribulus

gingko

eleuthero

nettles

milk thistle (w/ phosphohlipids)

Two caps everyday in the am with tea. REALLY helped my kidneys and adrenals.

Also 4 - 6 caps beet root powder helps a lot as this stimulates nitric oxide production which helps rebuild the kidneys. Combine that with CLA or olive oil for even better results

Everyone thinks milk thistle is for the liver but its great for kidneys too. The milk thistle w/ phosphohlipids from life extension is far and away the best, nothing comes close

Post Edited (Lapis_29) : 2/3/2019 7:38:15 PM (GMT-7)

Sheekster said...
I don't get the ala dosage... The ala capsules. I have are 600mg. I've taken a couple a day before and notice no difference. How does 5mg make a difference? Isn't there more than 5mg in some foods?

I’m wondering the same about the ALA dose - mine was 100 mg and I thought that was the lowest dose you could buy.

I’m surprised I didn’t get a bad reaction when I took it not knowing it would pull heavy metals out of my amalgam fillings.

I think I was taking 100 mg twice a day for several weeks.

Thanks for the herbal kidney protocol - will give that a try!

Yeah it's strange, I had been taking 150mg of ALA in my morning vitamins for years and had never noticed anything from it. The same quantity just taken in small doses spread out over a few days has a major effect.

ALA has a short half life so by taking it every 3 hours it stays at relatively stable levels. According to the ACC folks this gives your body enough time to excrete the metals that are picked up and minimizes the redistribution.

ALA boosts glutathione in cells too so I suspect it helps the body detox more than just mercury. I also take DMSA every 3 hrs but I don't think it has any effect other than just chelating metals.

Lapis_29 said...
are you actually waking in the middle of the night to redose every 3 hours?

thats the one thing I simply cant do.

I'll do anything as long as it's legal and ethical to feel better. Plus I 'm now sleeping so much better I've gone from 12 hrs a night sleeping and still felling like crap to 9 and wake up feeling great..

Sheekster said...
I don't get the ala dosage... The ala capsules. I have are 600mg. I've taken a couple a day before and notice no difference. How does 5mg make a difference? Isn't there more than 5mg in some foods?

I don;t know either why this is the case. I took 100mg per day and it took a week before I had a reaction.. Best way to test for Mercury toxicity is to take a lower dose , say 12.5mg every 3 hours to see your reaction. I takes a few days sometimes.. Fully Mercury free is 6 months of 300mg every 3 hrs with no Symtomes. And yes it takes years

Why do we do it you might ask. Taking all the Mercury/Lead out also allows your body to detox aluminum and all other kinds of nasties. Some people can detox Mercury naturally and for some it's not as much of a issue

For those of us that can't , In short it takes all the crap out of your Dentist and Vaccines put into you and brings the body back to its natural state. As that happens amazing things happen. I was unsure I'd make it to 65. Now I'm confident I can be very healthy and active until 80.

There are times I feel better than I have my whole life. Way before Lyme.

And you have 100's of people al saying a few years in that say it progressively gets better.

Mark FW said...

Sheekster said...
I don't get the ala dosage... The ala capsules. I have are 600mg. I've taken a couple a day before and notice no difference. How does 5mg make a difference? Isn't there more than 5mg in some foods?

I don;t know either why this is the case. I took 100mg per day and it took a week before I had a reaction.. Best way to test for Mercury toxicity is to take a lower dose , say 12.5mg every 3 hours to see your reaction. I takes a few days sometimes.. Fully Mercury free is 6 months of 300mg every 3 hrs with no Symtomes. And yes it takes years

Why do we do it you might ask. Taking all the Mercury/Lead out also allows your body to detox aluminum and all other kinds of nasties. Some people can detox Mercury naturally and for some it's not as much of a issue

For those of us that can't , In short it takes all the crap out of your Dentist and Vaccines put into you and brings the body back to its natural state. As that happens amazing things happen. I was unsure I'd make it to 65. Now I'm confident I can be very healthy and active until 80.

There are times I feel better than I have my whole life. Way before Lyme.

And you have 100's of people al saying a few years in that say it progressively gets better.

Thanks Mark. This really hits home for me as all my symptoms started after receiving the HPV vaccine, so I have looked into the ACC protocol and will probably look into it again and dive in at some point. What is the name of the test recommended to get before starting?

Mark - so how come I wasn’t symptomatic when I took higher doses of ALA?

I have mercury amalgams so I should have.

It wasn’t the R-ALA - just ALA

I guess I’m lucky it didn’t give me symptoms.
It was before I started treatment and I didn’t have any herxing - my patterns were quite predictable then - would usually have a late afternoon/evening daily flare.

I had the pulsatile tinnitus (swooshing) but that was already a symptom. It’s gone now.

I did have two mercury amalgams replaced a couple years ago with a “regular “ dentist - and also survived that with no increase in symptoms.
I did do activated charcoal before and after the procedure.
That must have helped.