Improvements after 3 weeks of DNRS

I started with quercetin at the same time but I think its DNRS that has helped the most.

It took a while to go over all the videos but after some days I started doing some of the exercies.
There is one exericise with 9 steps that should take 10-15 min each time that I do a bit shorter, that you should do rounds of for 1 h a day. You end it with visualization of an ealier positive memory and a visualization of a future positive memory when you are well and can handle a current trigger. In my case I have often been visualizating around chemicals and food.

I have done 15-30 min of that most days. Other things I do with this is that I read way less about illness/health. Still look here daily but only check a few threads.
Read a lot less news and politics also. I only watch/read things that are non violent and low stress. So its mostly comedy shows or comedy romance movies. Dont read health books anymore either.
We talk less about symtoms and illness. We used to talk about at that almost all the time. I might say that I have lot of symtoms and leave it at that. Before my girlfriend would ask where I felt the pain, etc and it consumed so much energy. talking to much about this.


Thinking about earlier positive memorys have been amazing. When you start its hard to find good memories, but when you have done it for a while you get acess to many more. We had been together for 5 years before we got sick, and we traveled a lot and had so many good times that I havent been thinking about in ages.

What I noticed are less sensitivites to light, sound, pressure/touch, chemicals.
More stable emotionally in the last week. It has been a very up and down after starting DNRS, like my system was processing something. Both crying and laughing.
When treating I have had way less symtoms compared to before.
Less symtoms in general, specially pain that hasnt been as intense of frequent.
Less need for treating. My body have started killing things by it self. I have been getting rid of a lot of toxins even as I only have been treating once a week the last two weeks. Had some problems with brain inflammation around going to the bathroom. I use to get when Im toxic.

I still do lllt, grounding, work on sleep, working out, detox etc

There is more things I should do with DNRS, but as I just started Computer Engineering at the university I dont have the time. Way behind in math as it was 16 years ago I studied that, but just booked a online math tutor.
Im going to study/work 6 days a week now for a while. Without DNRS I dont think I would have a chance.
I been able to tolerate the classrooms I have been at so far, that was something I was very worried about before around mold.
I wont be able to handle being in school monday-friday 0815 am - 5 pm as its scheduled. So I plan to test being there 2.5 days a week, and study and work from home a lot. If that dont work, I will wait to next year when I should be a lot better.

Post Edited (Deep_sleep) : 8/29/2019 4:05:05 PM (GMT-6)

Thank you. I will try some fodmaps soon. I look forward to be able to eat more things.

My girlfriend is also doing DNRS. There are things happening in her body also but she hasnt seen the same improvements so far. But belive it will happen soon.

Will definietly post more updates later.

Sounds very interesting. I hope more people chime in with positive results.

Keep us posted!!

I have had a lot of problems with my neck over the last years. I have been travelling with my pillow. If I look to much to left, right or down I get neck pain.
This is also starting to get better now I had my first long day at school yesterday, the first 2 weeks have only been a few hours of math each day.
I still got a lot of neck pain but I looked down so much when taking notes the whole day.
My girlfriend gave me a massage last night and today there is almost no problem, normally I would be in so much pain of just one hour of looking down.
I belive, and hope that this will continue to improve. I have been in classes with very strong light also. Also gave me problems but way less then before.

I was in one class with 180 people, sat next to a guy that smelled a lot during one of the classes, no problem at all.

But what I found very intersting is how much die of both me and my girlfriend has now without taking something that kills.
A system that isnt stuck in constant fight or flight can prioritize repairing the body

Post Edited (Deep_sleep) : 9/3/2019 12:44:24 AM (GMT-6)

DNRS is one of those questionable modalities I mean think about it. If you train your brain to essentially ignore and therefore remove symptoms of Lyme why wouldn’t this work for any bacteria or virus? Why not AIDS or anything that causes symptoms?

I’m not questioning folks feeling better doing this I’m just wondering why because the premise doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.

Deep_sleep said...
Its not meant to ignore Lyme. But lyme, mold. trauma etc can make your limbic system to be stuck in an overreactive mode.
Take chemicals for example. Of course chemicals is bad for you, but it isnt that bad that walking by somebody with perfume should feel like its life threatening and give you a lot of symtoms.

So for some a lot of their symtoms or sensitivities is because of an overactive system.
With DNRS you want to quiet it down and reprogram it so things that your body thought was very bad for you, isnt that bad. A good example is my neck. It has been "protecting" me with giving me pain when I move my neck to a non optimal position. That was maybe good in the beginning, but it got stuck in that way, and dont help me anymore.

Being in constant fight or flight affects a lot of systems in the body. In my case, my body now seems to be able to kill of things by itself. But Neil Nathan uses it for sensitive patients so they can handle treatment after this.
I see it as one of the tools I use to get well.
My understanding is that it helps most for people with chronic pain, sensitivities and fatigue, as those are symtoms that can be of an overreactive limbic system.
But I will still treat but not as often, and work with my health in a lot of other ways.

Good examples or being stuck in "over-reactive" mode, which can happen to numerous body systems, even the structure- tight facia can even continue to "protect" even when its no longer needed. This (fascia) and "Hyper" adrenal response was / still is hard to shake for me. I might try this this winter when I have more time unless it finally fixes itself by then.

If someone’s still very ill and didn’t treat very long, then yes keep treating.

But the fact that body systems can get stuck into a new ( but false) normality is also true. Don’t discredit this fact. GERD is a perfect example. Same with stress response and some adrenal issues. Healing takes on many forms. As a past regional pro athlete, I beat my body to death in the early stages of Lyme for almost two decades - till I could no longer do what I expected to do. Soft tissue injuries would not heal and left a lot of tight scar tissue areas. They are now healing: proof. Even some war vets can’t get their brain out of “war mode”. So it can happen.

If one is seeking to be pathogen free, theres a lot more than tick spread bugs in us. Where would one stop? But yes, raging Lyme or co symptoms require treating.

There is also the theory that Lyme BB bacteria is Never totally gone. Goal is to get it low enough for the body to be the boss again.

The OP made this post based on observation that it’s helping, so prob not a waste of money in this case. another of many targets on the dart board I suppose.

Post Edited (astroman) : 9/3/2019 4:32:58 PM (GMT-6)

I am going to ask my fellow local Lymies about this next time I see them. I was researching Lyme and the limbic system and it seems DNRS is more popular than I thought https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/holistic-psychiatry/201906/the-trauma-living-chronic-mysterious-illness

It just seems like it would work on a similar principle as neurofeedback or something though. Which didn't do anything for me. I've also had extensive TMS and that made me improve mentally but not physically.

I did 40 min meditation daily a long while ago and made huge improvements from that and was able to start to process earlier trauma.
We have also been saying 3 things we are grateful for almost every night for a long while that I also noticed improvements from.

Im a big beliver in functional medicine where you want your body to work as well as possible and it will get easier to get well. I think a lot of people on this forum focus to much on treatment and supplements and not enough on other things they can do to improve their health.

For me I already spent years reading about health. I have read 6 books about sleep for example so I have a lot of knowledge, its more about doing those things.
So there isnt that much need for me to read that much anymore. I have a solid routine and do so many things that helps. Recently started doing intermediate fasting more often then before.

Tried a gluten free beer and garlic today and it went a lot better then before
I used to have problems with talking on a cell phone without using headphones as I got pain having my arm bent. That is no problem anymore, at least for a few minutes

I got headaches from dirty glasses before. When it was at it worst I cleaned them 5-8 times a day. Noticed a lot of improvements there also.

Took GI ultramax today that I had my craziest herxes on before with anger problems and burning skin.
Today I got a some light dizziness and I went to the bathroom a lot, no real herx except for that.

Post Edited (Deep_sleep) : 9/6/2019 12:51:19 PM (GMT-6)