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Posted 10/6/2019 7:35 PM (GMT 0)
Hi all,
I have been doing dry brushing then taking a hot shower with the hopes of helping my body in detox process. But EVERY time I dry brush I feel awful (in my head- major depression/fog) and every time I have a hot/warm shower it’s that same intense neuro stuff. Same thing happens in the heat or in the sunshine.

What’s with this?!?
Posted 10/6/2019 7:42 PM (GMT 0)
I’ve always been told and read the baths should be warm - not hot.

Maybe try a cooler shower instead?
Posted 10/6/2019 9:47 PM (GMT 0)
It’s possible that the Heat from a very hot bath is causing dieoff - so you’re felling worse compared to a warm bath where you’re detoxing - ie lessening the toxins.

I always feel better after my Epsom salt baths - but if I get overheated in a shower sometimes I don’t feel well.
Posted 10/6/2019 9:54 PM (GMT 0)
In the recesses of my memory, I seem to recall that folks with babesia are the ones who have trouble with heat. I also recall that Buhner did not advise using red root if babesia was present because it is a coagulant. That makes me think the heat does something to the blood flow and the causes worse head symptoms due to babesia’s affect on blood flow. Something like that. Many with POTS can’t tolerate heat.
Posted 10/6/2019 11:26 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for all your responses, it’s nice to not feel alone.

Best non drug for Babesia? Cryptolepis? Alchornea?
Posted 10/7/2019 12:00 AM (GMT 0)

JovaLyme said...

WalkingbyFaith said...
In the recesses of my memory, I seem to recall that folks with babesia are the ones who have trouble with heat. I also recall that Buhner did not advise using red root if babesia was present because it is a coagulant. That makes me think the heat does something to the blood flow and the causes worse head symptoms due to babesia’s affect on blood flow. Something like that. Many with POTS can’t tolerate heat.

That kind of makes sense. I have no tolerance of heat or humidity at all.

Showering is not as bad as bathing, but it's a horrible experience for me. My neuro symptoms are so bad it feels like the water is running up my body instead of down it!

I'm beginning to think that Babesia is the infection causing me the most problems as well.

We seem to have a lot of the same symptoms Jova. I do terrible with showers and heat as well. Dr Nathan recently told me he thought babesia was my worst infection. Dr. Liegner said disulfiram “ worked way way better” than other babesia protocols for some of the his patients so maybe between disulfiram hitting that and then Lyme persisters is why disulfiram seems to be working so well for me so far. Ill keep you updated
Posted 10/7/2019 12:02 AM (GMT 0)
Emma,

This could also be mast cell stuff. Mast cells get activated by heat.
Posted 10/7/2019 12:56 AM (GMT 0)
Thank you this is very helpful.
I would LOVE to be able to see Dr. Nathan... how do you do that?!? Does he take on new patients? His book has been my saviour many times with HUGE revelations come from it.
Posted 10/7/2019 1:12 AM (GMT 0)
BINDER BEWARE! Also just realized (after months of agony).... that activated charcoal I’m using is also causing so much havoc.... thank you Dr. Nathan. Both of my drs haven’t twigged to this or my newly developed reactions to Phosphatydlcholine. I was once able to tolerate it just fine (it’s in the Liposomal Vit C I’m taking)- was able to take 6,000mg a day and it was helping with mast cell etc.. but now, 1 packet of the lipo C (which has the phos choline) makes my neuro symptoms horrific. Yet... I feel like I need it for so many things. I’ve tried Ester C, but is not the same.

What is everyone taking in terms of Vit C? I don’t seem to be able to survive without it ... but just recently made the choline connection along with the binder connection...It’s brutal!
Posted 10/7/2019 1:13 AM (GMT 0)

Emms said...
Thank you this is very helpful.
I would LOVE to be able to see Dr. Nathan... how do you do that?!? Does he take on new patients? His book has been my saviour many times with HUGE revelations come from it.

Agreed. Dr Nathan was probably my favorite consultation I’ve had of about 40 doctors. Extremely thorough. Knows exactly what he’s doing. Everything seemed to make sense when no one else really understood me. He does phone consultations. A bit expensive but absolutely worth it if you don’t know what direction to turn. His specialty is figuring out what diagnosis to focus on and being able to distinguish based on clinical symptoms since testing is often terrible.
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