Tendon and Ligament Pain

You might have seen my five or so years of post about this, .....but then, you've not been here that long. I dont post much anymore on this topic.

I did do what conventional Drs said could not be accomplished........but thats not saying much (conventional Drs LOL!!).

Can give a brief summary later, I tried/did a lot. Most of what I did was correction after the "irradication process" though. Done during treatment it should slow down the pain from spreading though.The main issue seems to be lack tissue circulation, or needing MORE than usual. Aggressive different types of massage is what I had to learn about.
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The tools used in soft tisue release were golf balls, lacross ball, Softbal, 4" inflateable ball (for gut), TheraCane multi hook/knob tool. Smooth and studed compact fitness rollers.

The methods used and learned from clinicians (crash coarse)were :
1)triggerpint release
2)Barnes method myofacsial release
3)Active Release Technique

I modified these and drempt some up for use by self as in just me.

As I improved I added going back to the gym and isolating areas vs whole body workouts- its the only way to rate your improvement.

Some of the above except my modifications could be learned on You tube, depending on what areas your working on..

Post Edited (astroman) : 10/29/2019 10:30:08 PM (GMT-6)

Keep in mind: My case was pretty extreme........... and according to the hands on PT's and Chiros I have seen- my tolerance level to pain is higher vs the average client they are used to.

Also contributing to my soft tissue problem ; I also had many past impact (crashes) and repetitive motion injuries that never healed right from 25 years of motorcycle, bicycle and snowmobile riding and competition . Only one broken bone though, my big toe...ha ha..(lucky).

I thought I had MS and various forms Yoga did not work for me, it actually made my condition worse. Cant hurt to try it though. It did help AFTER tissue release though but not without it first.

The degree to which and what to try / works depends on the severity of stiffness and if adhesions or fussed tissues are there.

Stretching and releasing "fused tissues" are two different , but somewhat related issues. "Fused" tissue cannot be stretched but can be a little more each time as it re-reals from release. "Fused" tissue actually can be felt from the outside and is somewhat more dense and hard, almost calcified and lumpy knots under the skin. This happens in tendons and muscle. Tendons get more "roppy".

Example: Tie a knot in a cotton sock, or more represent-able - a garden hose .
-Now pull on both ends- knot got worse, but you stretched more limber areas on either side of the knot.
-Untie the knot and lay sock or hose down, its a little crooked but can now be stretched straight.

Releasing is done with timed pressure, repeated daily, or even several times a day. It pushes out "dead" , trapped tissue fluid, then allowing new fluid with nutrients IN to heal. This is a slow process.
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I wore shoe/foot orthodics for 12 years for foot pain- saw three foot Drs and 10 PT's / chiropractors. I fix it this summer/fall on my own. Its prob susceptible to re-injury, but this is the first time in 20 years ive been pain free there - and for one month so far.

Post Edited (astroman) : 10/29/2019 10:42:04 PM (GMT-6)

Great Lakes collagen powder, I take it every day. It’s recommended in Buhner’s book for tendon repair.

Lyme tendon calcification study. Pretty interesting and seems to line up with my personal experience with hamstring tendons. In late cases the tissue actually changes, thus remains so after treatment even when the pain stops spreading or improves. ABX or eradication herbs will not "fix" tissue that is damaged.

Also: "..............ongoing immunostimulation by spirochete remains located in hamstring tendons, a privileged, relatively avascular site where the foreign material may be able to evade immune clearance."

- the lack of circulation in tendons (as noted: avascular) is why various forms of tissue release helps heal by increasing circulation. Calcification will also obviously suppress what little circulation tendons naturally have.

" ...........Also, as Dr. Arvikar pointed out in her presentation, calcific tendinopathy implies prior inflammation or degenerative changes. Thus, these calcific hamstring abnormalities implicate the hamstring tendons as a potential initial site of infection by hematogenously-spread Borrelia burgdorferi during the prearthritis phase of Lyme disease.

A further implication of the study is the possibility that hamstring tendon calcification could serve as a useful diagnostic aid in distinguishing Lyme arthritis from arthritis due to other causes. In the study, hamstring calcific tendinopathy was found in 28 of 31 adults and children with Lyme arthritis, 3 of 22 with knee osteoarthritis, and 1 of 14 patients with inflammatory arthritis, Dr. Arvikar noted............"

https://www.mdedge.com/infectiousdisease/article/189914/mixed-topics/hamstring-tendinopathy-implicated-persistent-lyme


Slightly damaging tissue (black and blue) to start a healing process over again is also something I,ve learned about from a clinician vs surgery to scrape the tendon. Did that in a few areas with some improvement. Seen it online too.

sandyfeet said...
I’ve been wondering based on this whether ultrasound is a worthwhile therapy to help deal with this. .

I have a cheap mobil ultra sound device, was thinking of getting a better one. Chiros always use these, but everyday use is needed to really be effective. Should break up calcification I would think.

Note for other readers: remember there are two different ultra sounds, one that is imaging equipment and the one mentioned above (for tissue therapy).

I had to stop gluten. It made my joint pain go away almost completely.