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Posted 1/8/2020 7:10 PM (GMT 0)
Wow did you guys see that Justin Bieber’s depression and manic behavior has been misdiagnosed and it’s Lyme!! That is insane! Makes me wonder if his ex Celina’s lupus is really sexually transmitted Lyme. My mind is blown.
Posted 1/8/2020 7:17 PM (GMT 0)
Wow - I didn’t see that.

And Selina having an “autoimmune” disease.... hmmm
Posted 1/8/2020 7:57 PM (GMT 0)
I know this is crazzyyyyy
Posted 1/8/2020 8:14 PM (GMT 0)
I hope he speaks up about it - here in Canada - we need him to talk about it... like Avril did.
Posted 1/8/2020 8:14 PM (GMT 0)
Wow, guess he has some kind of documentary related to this coming out

should be an interesting watch

Looks like he got IV ABX
Posted 1/8/2020 8:16 PM (GMT 0)

Lapis_29 said...
Wow, guess he has some kind of documentary related to this coming out
should be an interesting watch
Looks like he got IV ABX


Oh I missed that .. wow...
Prob went to either dr H or DrJ.
I bet the celebrities get an appt right away... lol

Edit - article said the IV treatment was prior to lyme diagnosis
Posted 1/8/2020 8:38 PM (GMT 0)
Wow that is crazy! How contagious is Lyme sexually?
Posted 1/8/2020 8:52 PM (GMT 0)

CalmLittleBuddha said...
Wow that is crazy! How contagious is Lyme sexually?

Many llmd’s say it is - not sure if science shows this - but they base this on their patients’ partners also having it.
Or is it just that these couples are exposed to ticks (and other lyme carrying insects) together?
Posted 1/8/2020 9:24 PM (GMT 0)
Oh no not da Biebs, sad... So what's the count of celebrities that have Lyme, especially in the music arts alone: Shania Twain, Avril Lavigne, Darryl Hall, then of course Yolanda Hadid, Alec Baldwin, and Amy Tan... Not to mention Joe Rogan said he knows 12 people of his friends that have Lyme Disease.

Amazing the number of celebs that have this disease, but it's barely reported on by the corporate news and majority of hospitals and doctors act like the disease doesn't exist and is rare.

Bottom line, I think with for the last two decades we've been in a cold war with numerous countries, and some of them could be using lyme as biowarfare to battle one another. I'm sure climate change has been naturally putting it into overdrive, but I really think there's something more sinister at play. Kris Newby said that our government used ticks and lyme to dry to bring down Cuba's economy and Castro,
https://youtu.be/qjfn5y5iw_8?t=706

Anyone ever think this is what's going on between the current axis and allies? Newby even claimed that Russia may be transporting ticks over here and trying to blame it on the US government, knowing it's dark history of **** scientists and Plum Island with Project Paperclip. And basically every country and government is staying silent over this epidemic and not saying a word, because they know the ticks and these spirochetes history goes back to this being biological warfare, even Japan has history...

War and it's weapons is going to be the end of civilization if we keep this sh1t up...

Post Edited (Charlie55) : 1/14/2020 7:47:52 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 1/8/2020 10:19 PM (GMT 0)
Charlie: "Oh no not da Biebs, sad... So what's the count of celebrities that have Lyme, especially in the music arts alone: Shania Twain, Avril Lavigne, Darryl Hall, then of course Yolanda Hadid, Alec Baldwin, and Amy Tan... Not to mention Joe Rogan said he knows 12 people of his friends that have Lyme Disease."
Also Kris Kristofferson.
Michael J Fox - in an interview with David Letterman he stated he had lyme disease. And as you know he was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease. I guess he (or anyone) never made the connection.
Canadians: Avril, Shania, Michael J. and the Biebe's.
Posted 1/9/2020 12:06 AM (GMT 0)
Completely agree about suspecting Selena might have it as well. I’m so thankful these celebrities are going public, I’m praying that this brings more research and awareness.
Posted 1/9/2020 12:24 AM (GMT 0)
Thank you Girlie and Sandyfeet for the info. I just came across this article on lymedisease.org and it is really scary stuff...
It states "The presence of the Lyme spirochete in genital secretions and identical strains in married couples strongly suggests that sexual transmission of the disease occurs. Dr. Stricker pointed out that there is always some risk of getting Lyme disease from a tickbite in the woods but there may be a bigger risk of getting Lyme disease in the bedroom".

Post Edited (CalmLittleBuddha) : 1/8/2020 5:38:01 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 1/9/2020 12:32 AM (GMT 0)
Jamie-Lynn Sigler from the Sopranos says she *had* Lyme, but now has MS. A lot of famous golfers also have Lyme, one of them has a wife who is on the Global Lyme Alliance board, and she has Lyme too now.

Ben Stiller had Lyme, but had classic knee swelling and caught it early I think, so who knows if he still has it.

Lots of these celebrities get it in the Hamptons or Martha's Vineyard.
Posted 1/9/2020 12:36 AM (GMT 0)

CalmLittleBuddha said...
Thank you Girlie and Sandyfeet for the info. Sorry if this is a common sense question but does this mean that if your partner has Lyme you could keep passing it back and forth between each other?

Yes....
But, remember - not everyone gets active lyme and co's. You can test positive but not have the symptoms.
I know couples - one has lyme...and the other doesn't ..and they aren't being 'careful' (if you know what I mean)
Maybe it's only a matter of time before the partner also has symptoms....
I believe I was carrying around bart for a very long time...and quite healthy all my life.
Possibly what happened was the stress at the time affected my immune system....and maybe I got bit by a tick too?
Really hard to know.
Posted 1/9/2020 12:43 AM (GMT 0)
That's true girlie some people have strong enough immune systems where they don't even have symptoms. People like me who have the MTHFR mutation and a week immune systems need to be extra careful.

Post Edited (CalmLittleBuddha) : 1/8/2020 6:03:30 PM (GMT-7)

Posted 1/9/2020 2:35 AM (GMT 0)

Girlie said...
Charlie: "Oh no not da Biebs, sad... So what's the count of celebrities that have Lyme, especially in the music arts alone: Shania Twain, Avril Lavigne, Darryl Hall, then of course Yolanda Hadid, Alec Baldwin, and Amy Tan... Not to mention Joe Rogan said he knows 12 people of his friends that have Lyme Disease."
Also Kris Kristofferson.
Michael J Fox - in an interview with David Letterman he stated he had lyme disease. And as you know he was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease. I guess he (or anyone) never made the connection.
Canadians: Avril, Shania, Michael J. and the Biebe's.

Yep... Also one of the Olsen Twins, lots of athletes too, heard a few golfers, along with hockey players basketball players. Sign of the times, since tha Biebs got it.

I just wonder what's going to happen, if they're just going to keep this silence and propaganda articles like this
https://ctmirror.org/category/ct-viewpoints/treating-chronic-lyme-disease-is-it-medical-fraud-lawrence-zemel/
"Treating ‘chronic Lyme disease:’ Is it medical fraud?"

I guess the way Bieber and the rest of the celebrities like Darryl Hall that have treated with longterm antibiotics with the best Lyme Doctor such as Dr. H have all committed medical fraud.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/its-a-scandal--daryl-hall_b_11118332

We're all committing medical fraud, what's fraudulent is articles like these, meanwhile people are suffering.

Seeing how the Biebs has some psychological issues going on like depression, I'd put money on it that he has Bartonella.
Posted 1/9/2020 4:03 AM (GMT 0)
I'm starting to believe many many more people have lyme but are either asymptomatic or it has been misdiagnosed. I don't mean a small percentage of the population. I'm thinking more than half. And it's probably been this way for a long time. It's just our modern conditions are giving all these microbes, parasites, and fungus a leg up and people are now, more and more, getting sick. Our immune systems are stressed. Just my thought.
Posted 1/9/2020 4:21 AM (GMT 0)
What I’m starting to realize is what we think of as Lyme disease really is a confluence of factors. Lyme is one input (or maybe it’s another infection like bartonella) but it doesn’t become chronic until you wear you body down w bad food, stress, partying, surgery or whatever to the point where the body can’t maintain homeostasis and then it just goes. That’s why every system is affected. Digestion, endocrine, neurological, immune. Everyone has ****ed up digestion, low testosterone, high cortisol, autoimmunity etc All the mechanisms and negative feed back loops that maintain order break.

I also don’t think just Lyme does this. I think SOME people are developing “Lyme” without the Lyme, and the symptoms are the same. It’s all the same thing, we’ve worn our bodies down living in a toxic world, and the end result is the same. Autoimmunity inflammation and lack of homeostasis that affects.

Not to mention Lyme is everywhere, we’ve probably all got it in us and it may be a contributing factor, but it may not be the thing that pushes us over the edge. For example, I grew up in CT, was bitten 3x i can remember in my late teens and early 20s. In my late 20s and early 30s I was working like crazy, ordering in my diner on seamless, then I’d go out have a bunch of beers w my friends and do it all again. I got chronically sick at 31. Inflammatory and autoimmune conditions. If I wasn’t bitten 17y ago would I still be sick? Maybe, no one knows.

For all we know Bieber was out there getting stoned after his concerts flying around the world w no sleep eating takeout and his system blew, and because he has exposure to Lyme like we all do it’s “Lyme”.

I know this will be controversial and this isn’t the case for everyone, but I think curing this condition takes a holistic approach because there’s more to “Lyme“ than just the Lyme.
Posted 1/9/2020 7:31 AM (GMT 0)
I dont follow his career, but its always good when a celebrity brings attention to this. So many people are obsessed with celebrities and they obsess about their lives, and now more people will have this disease on their minds, so this is a good thing. Especially since he clearly has chronic lyme. There are literally millions of young people following him on instagram that now have an understanding of chronic Lyme and what it can do. Their first impression of chronic lyme won be some fake CDC article telling them its a hoax, it will be "hey thats the same disease Justin Bieber had and it stifled his career." They will have some touchpoint to relate to this disease, besides CDC propaganda.

There have been some other high profile celbrities who have gotten lyme. Martha Stewart says she gets Lyme nearly every summer, but she says she recognizes and treats it early, and so far no apparent problems.

We also had the Real Beverly hills housewife lady come out as having chronic lyme. And so has April Lavigne and many other mid level celebrities.

But this is Justin Bieber. This is BY FAR the biggest name to ever acknowledge having chronic Lyme. This is huge!

right now thousands of young girls are talking about Lyme and what it does, all because of the biebs saying this. They are learning about it and discussing it at this very moment.

I hate most of popular culture. I find it corrupting and nihilistic. Even destructive. But if an important message can be channeled to the people through celebrity new websites, Im all for it. Maybe some good can come from celebrity culture.

The message will reach far more people than anything any Lyme sufferer could say or do. This is really good news.

It will be even better news when he beats it and comes back stronger. He can spread awareness of chronic lyme to the general public who know nothing of lyme, and at the same time serve as an inspiration to those suffering with chronic lyme that it can be beat.

I never in a billion years thought i would say this, but i suddenly find myself a Biebs fan! Go Biebs!
Posted 1/9/2020 8:37 AM (GMT 0)
Obviously I'm sad for him and his family and in a strange way also glad that such a big star has told his story which will bring attention BUT...

I'm horrified and getting serious anxiety from reading all the awful comments under any news article on it, from the truly ignorant to the scarily uneducated to the just plain hateful.

Why are people so quick to say that Lyme isn't real? And to just be so mean about it?

I guess my point is, are all these celebrity stories doing the reputation of Lyme disease more harm than good?
Posted 1/9/2020 9:03 AM (GMT 0)

physedgirl09 said...
I know this is crazzyyyyy

ofc it is crazy. Lyme disease does not exist... A dentist once told me....

I stopped using her services ... immediately afterwards....

Anyway, never argue with a dentist about diseases while she has a device in your mouth....
Posted 1/9/2020 9:33 AM (GMT 0)

missy j78 said...

I'm horrified and getting serious anxiety from reading all the awful comments under any news article on it, from the truly ignorant to the scarily uneducated to the just plain hateful.

Isn't that the truth Missy! Even a person who said they were "diagnosed as lyme disease, took antibiotics for 2 weeks, all gone, no side effects, all good. it is no big deal I guess unless you are a rock star. I was 71 at the time".
You would think people who have had lyme at least would educate themselves.
But hopefully some of these people will become more educated about lyme when these celebrities make their disease public. It'll be interesting to see what Bieber has to say, and what he might try to do to help the cause.
Posted 1/9/2020 1:08 PM (GMT 0)

dcd2103 said...
What I’m starting to realize is what we think of as Lyme disease really is a confluence of factors. Lyme is one input (or maybe it’s another infection like bartonella) but it doesn’t become chronic until you wear you body down w bad food, stress, partying, surgery or whatever to the point where the body can’t maintain homeostasis and then it just goes. That’s why every system is affected. Digestion, endocrine, neurological, immune. Everyone has ****ed up digestion, low testosterone, high cortisol, autoimmunity etc All the mechanisms and negative feed back loops that maintain order break.
I also don’t think just Lyme does this. I think SOME people are developing “Lyme” without the Lyme, and the symptoms are the same. It’s all the same thing, we’ve worn our bodies down living in a toxic world, and the end result is the same. Autoimmunity inflammation and lack of homeostasis that affects.
Not to mention Lyme is everywhere, we’ve probably all got it in us and it may be a contributing factor, but it may not be the thing that pushes us over the edge. For example, I grew up in CT, was bitten 3x i can remember in my late teens and early 20s. In my late 20s and early 30s I was working like crazy, ordering in my diner on seamless, then I’d go out have a bunch of beers w my friends and do it all again. I got chronically sick at 31. Inflammatory and autoimmune conditions. If I wasn’t bitten 17y ago would I still be sick? Maybe, no one knows.
For all we know Bieber was out there getting stoned after his concerts flying around the world w no sleep eating takeout and his system blew, and because he has exposure to Lyme like we all do it’s “Lyme”.
I know this will be controversial and this isn’t the case for everyone, but I think curing this condition takes a holistic approach because there’s more to “Lyme“ than just the Lyme.


Excellent post! This is right alongside my thinking. In most cases I believe lyme to be a contributing factor, but not the main issue.
Posted 1/9/2020 4:41 PM (GMT 0)

dcd2103 said...
What I’m starting to realize is what we think of as Lyme disease really is a confluence of factors. Lyme is one input (or maybe it’s another infection like bartonella) but it doesn’t become chronic until you wear you body down w bad food, stress, partying, surgery or whatever to the point where the body can’t maintain homeostasis and then it just goes. That’s why every system is affected. Digestion, endocrine, neurological, immune. Everyone has ****ed up digestion, low testosterone, high cortisol, autoimmunity etc All the mechanisms and negative feed back loops that maintain order break.
I also don’t think just Lyme does this. I think SOME people are developing “Lyme” without the Lyme, and the symptoms are the same. It’s all the same thing, we’ve worn our bodies down living in a toxic world, and the end result is the same. Autoimmunity inflammation and lack of homeostasis that affects.
Not to mention Lyme is everywhere, we’ve probably all got it in us and it may be a contributing factor, but it may not be the thing that pushes us over the edge. For example, I grew up in CT, was bitten 3x i can remember in my late teens and early 20s. In my late 20s and early 30s I was working like crazy, ordering in my diner on seamless, then I’d go out have a bunch of beers w my friends and do it all again. I got chronically sick at 31. Inflammatory and autoimmune conditions. If I wasn’t bitten 17y ago would I still be sick? Maybe, no one knows.
For all we know Bieber was out there getting stoned after his concerts flying around the world w no sleep eating takeout and his system blew, and because he has exposure to Lyme like we all do it’s “Lyme”.
I know this will be controversial and this isn’t the case for everyone, but I think curing this condition takes a holistic approach because there’s more to “Lyme“ than just the Lyme.

Fully agree with this. I wonder if any of the celeb.s have the severe, autoimmune type chronic lyme like many here have. The one that can't be cured with just abx.
Posted 1/9/2020 5:15 PM (GMT 0)
Yup. I kinda seperate the cases into 3 categories:

1.) You have an active infection of lyme. You got myocarditis, or bells palsy, or lyme arthritis/knee swelling. Sure, you clearly have an active infection and antibiotics are the solution. Maybe a differentiating clue is these situations tend to affect only one or two organ systems?

2.) You had an active infection, you responded to antibiotics, but your body is shot from being sick and youre left with a situation that more resembles autoimmunity/MCAS/autoinflammation because your immune/digestive/endocrine/nervous systems are all trashed. I saw someone mention that he wishes he treated with herbs, fasting, diet changes, exercise, and that makes sense to me.

3.) You developed autoimmunity another way and it resembles lyme.

I was reading a paper by Annie Oaklander the big autoimmune neuropathy researcher. She was saying in Sjogrens pretty much everyone has muscle pain. They all have fatigue. Digestion issues are common. But the kicker for me was 100% of the patients she treated had neuropsyche issues, which we normally attribute to lyme. 100%. She went and did an MRI and most of them showed frontal lobe or hippocampal volume loss (as we normally think is the footprint for neurolyme on an MRI). This is the exact footprint of lyme. Yet there it is in Sjogrens, showing these things are basically the same thing with just a different name.

I had a rheumatologist diagnose me as having an "undifferentiated connective tissue disease". I also had a neurologist tell me i have autoimmune lyme. He mentioned lyme can "mimic connective tissue diseases". Is it mimic'ing them, or is this just a semantics game? Maybe its that autoimmunity can take so many forms, and there are so many causes, only one of which is lyme.

I dunno I'm just spitballin here, maybe i test positive for bartonella or the biaxin works and i change my mind. Dont think anyone really knows.

Post Edited (dcd2103) : 1/9/2020 10:20:25 AM (GMT-7)

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