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Posted 2/4/2020 4:18 PM (GMT 0)
Hello,

I am seeking advice regarding using A-Bart and adding in the Buhner core protocol from Green Dragon. I have been on A-Bab and seemingly with antibiotics, kicked Babesia but my LLMD in NJ switched me to A Bart and while taking ADP (oregano oil) to treat Bartonella. . Been going along ok but still have "flares" ice pick headaches, twitching, brain fog and more during these flares. I decided to try and add in Buhner to really kick this thing into remission.

Does anyone have experience using both? Today I am herxing from the Buhner herbs for sure - headache, muscles feel funny etc. I also started taking Ashwagandha recently.

I am not sure how much longer I can continue to drive the three hours to NJ every couple of months from PA so am trying to find something I can treat myself with. I still cannot find a LLMD closer to me to see. We do have a local acupuncturist who does Chinese medicine. She is great, but financially I can't do the LLMD and see her.

Anyone with experience with Chinese herbs and acupuncture for Lyme and co-infections? Her acupuncture sessions did help me get through some bad times.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Posted 2/4/2020 5:15 PM (GMT 0)
Hello.
I use green dragon core. i want to add in bruhner Bart herbs. I don't know if I have Bart. Do you?

I tried abart a couple days ago as an " herbal challenge ". Three drops over two days. I stopped because I was feeling woozy when walking, insomnia, vibrating , and visual migraine. Some of those were new , some not. I'm unsure if it was from the A Bart . I think it was but things are so vague and cross over. I have kids around all the time and I got scared. I'd like to try again. Wish I had a care taker.

At any rate, through my research I thought Abart was pretty powerful, but might not eradicate. So I was thinking the full B protocol could do it.

Green dragon core has been very helpful in the past at maintaining. Then my symptoms changed to anxiety / depression , brain fog and cognitive stuff, balance stuff.

The dosages on bottle are on the low side of Stephens protocol.

I would like to see/ compare success results using herbs and ABX for each infection.

Keep me posted on what you do as we are treating similarly.

I'm off all herbs for a couple days as I had overload stress do to family/ A Bart combo. Hope to start back up in a day or two.

How has A Bart been for you? I'm scared of it.
Take care.
Posted 2/4/2020 5:26 PM (GMT 0)
Hi, thanks for responding. A Bart I started out slowly and now do 20 drops 2x a day. I have been doing that for a few years. I find that it did help but i just can't get rid of all the symptoms - twitching and/or flares.

Antibiotics gave me my life back in the beginning and once my LLMD thought I was stable enough we switched to this A Bart and ADP. Maybe I have to live with this protocol forever and accept the twitching and flares. But my LLMD always says he will get me completely well. Definitely have had terrible migraines while on A Bart but they eventually subsided. I also had vibrating but that went away with abx.

Wondering if I selected the right product as I started with the core protocol capsules - so they have several herbs in them. Buhner said that since several herbs are mixed in at lower doses a reaction would be less likely. But with the drops you would be able to tell what you had a reaction to - so will see. I may have to wait and try the core again on the weekend since it has hit me hard - one capsule!

Go slowly with the A Bart and try and track your symptoms.

You take care too. Wish we all had access to proper medical treatment for this disease - one day I hope we do.
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