Hansa Center experience from 2017

Hello, ItisLyme:

Thank you for taking the time to read my original comments and share your experiences. Your feedback is very helpful and really means a lot to me.

One of the many things that immediately endeared me to Dr. Jernigan was something he said in one of the many interviews I've heard. I don't remember who was interviewing him or when it happened, else I would go listen to it again and provide an exact quote. However, he basically stated that one does not have to believe in a remedy for it to work. That is, if something is going to work, it will work regardless of how the patient feels about it. As a longtime skeptic about most everything, I really appreciated that comment.

The Hansa Center and its doctors appealed to me from the beginning. The more I researched, the more my enthusiasm grew. But, I also know I have a habit of elevating health gurus upon a pedestal. And, unfortunately, most of them, eventually, let me down, for various reasons.

So, in addition to the two reasons I previously cited for my hesitance, I may have just considered a third reason:

1. If they can't help me, I will have "wasted" about $15,000 (clinic, travel, food, hotel, supplements, etc.)
2. I believe homeopathy is a large part of their treatments. No homeopathy has EVER worked for me.
3. I like to let things sit for a while, in order to see if my enthusiasm wears-off.

Over the past four-and-a-half years, I've spent over $25,000 on various doctors and tests. That figure doesn't include supplements. That would easily be several more thousand dollars. While I've had several "conventional" doctors (Cardiologists, Rheumatologist, Neurologist, etc.), I've had many Integrative doctors, Functional Medicine doctors, Chiropractors, Naturopaths, etc.

The most recent one works with Dr. Jemsek at his clinic in Washington, D.C. For my particular situation, she recommended several pharmaceuticals for sleep and a regimen of four antibiotics at once. I'm not saying she's wrong for those suggestions, because that's how she was trained. And, it's what they do in the clinic. It's possible I could end up following her recommendations. But, not without my trying something else first. Hence my original interest in the Hansa Center.

If I don't go to the Hansa Center, then I would likely work with a Chiropractor in Ann Arbor, Michigan. His personality and information resonates with me. (Second only to Hansa.) There were two other doctors I was considering (one in San Diego, California and the other in St. Louis, Missouri), but they promote ideas like the "Liver and Gallbladder Flush." As I believe that procedure is potentially harmful, those two doctors are probably not the right match. For better or worse, I tend to be an all-or-none guy.

Really, though, the Hansa Center is my preference. If I had unlimited money, I would have been there a year ago! I'm just trying to balance Cost vs. Reward. I just need to make a decision and go somewhere!

What sort of diet does the Hansa Center recommend? I assume they discuss diet, right? I've long been curious about whether they're on the Ketogenic bandwagon, if they recommend a plant-based diet, or something else.

I'm sure we'll chat again. Until then, I wish you luck in your continued journey and hope you get back to the level of health you deserve!

Sincerely,
The Dude

Hi there DudeAbides - I like your reasonings, and I think letting it sit to see if the enthusiasm wears off is absolutely fair

This absolutely resonated with me:

TheDudeAbides said...
Over the past four-and-a-half years, I've spent over $25,000 on various doctors and tests. That figure doesn't include supplements. That would easily be several more thousand dollars. While I've had several "conventional" doctors (Cardiologists, Rheumatologist, Neurologist, etc.), I've had many Integrative doctors, Functional Medicine doctors, Chiropractors, Naturopaths, etc.

I was like you and spent so much money and took so many supplements that I started to barf them back out as my body rejected the thought. I want to believe so badly in success, that I, too, put the "new" doctor on a pedestal just KNOWING that this new thing will make me better... sigh. -- Hansa is the *only* set of doctors to make a dent in my health and gain slow, continuous improvements.

Hansa will discuss diet with you. We have not been asked to change anything, but we were trained in Macrobiotics more than 10 years ago, and I still work with a professional chef/nutritionist in that vein. Having said that, I tried Keto and it failed miserably. -- The Hansa docs know that no 2 people are the same, so they don't have this method or that one. They will work with you individually. Chances are as we go thru the healing our needs will change... They are very in tune to nutrition but not pushy towards one way vs. another way... I suppose if you ate McDonalds 6 times per week, they would tell you it wasn't helping, hahahahaha

Deejavu,

Again, I thank you for your kind assistance!

After I downloaded the video you shared, I attempted to copy it into my "Health" folder (so I could stream it from my computer to my TV) and I got an error message that the file already existed. It seems I'd already downloaded it - along with several other Hansa videos - but had not yet watched it!

(◔_◔) --- *sigh*

Between audio books, podcasts, online summits I've downloaded, YouTube videos I've downloaded, and e-books I've found, I have many thousands of items backlogged. (Maybe the Hansa Center can help me with my OCD tendencies, too! ) I think I need to stop downloading stuff for a while and catch-up. Or, better yet, maybe give it a rest.

I will watch the diet one tonight, though!

Finally, thank you, too, for that encouraging reminder that it's never too late to try something new!

While it's likely apparent from my long, rambling posts, I like to write. It's not the area in which I studied or trained, but I can manage the basics.

In real life, people often frustrate me, but I always feel an internal drive to help make things better for others. Currently, I hate that I don't have the energy or stamina to do much, except work at the keyboard. My mind is still functional. Mostly.

Most of all, I like to make people laugh. As a kid, I wanted to be a comedian, an artist/architect, or a singer. Instead, I succumbed to "the real world," joined the military, and later got an engineering degree - which cost a lot and I didn't really use. Instead, I worked in various technology fields.

So, it would be great to, finally, do something I love. Whatever that might be. Money is not much of a motivator for me. Beyond having enough to sustain myself and some extra to put-away for the future, it's not that interesting.

Oh, god grief. It seems our time is up for this therapy session!

Thanks again!

The Dude

Dude,

Not sure if this will be helpful but I put off Hansa for almost two years. I hesitated sending my son because of how much we spent on LLMD's (x3) to treat my family. We traveled to a well known LLMD for second opinion (hotel, travel costs), before knowing it was Lyme, well I won't even go into THOSE expenses. We all have them.

We finally just did it and it was the best thing (and only thing) that worked for him. I wanted so badly to be the types that can take copious amounts of abx and heal. Alas, that is not us.

Then I treated our son but hesitated on spending the money on me for the same reason you stated "If it doesn't work I'll be out X amount of dollars." And I was a place of thinking "nothing works for me. Because it didn't. And it had been a very expensive few years. Well in that time my ex-boss asked me to return to work twice! Once in Jan 2017 and then again in December 2017. I wasn't strong enough and was still so sick. If I had gone to Hansa two years ago I would be back working and recouped that money many times over.

You will know when it's time, or not.

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