Methylene Blue for Bartonella

Methylene Blue not to be taken with Disulfiram.
disulfiram is an antidepressant, works on serotonin receptors, increases serotonin in the brain.
Both taken together can cause serotonin syndrome.

I'd like to hear how BrianinPA is doing. He had that bad "herx" on Rifabutin and MB but hasn't updated.

tickbite666 said...
Garzie,

I had read that ramping up slow was recommended (maybe I read one of your earlier posts). But Infuserve filled the Rx as 50mg capsules, which will be harder to divide. Maybe I could take only one dose in the am for a few days before going back to the prescribed one 50mg capsule twice a day. Your thoughts are welcome.

I also added Serrapeptase that I had on-hand, but plan to order lumbrokinase before I run out.

yes - i would try that - the herx and fatigue for me were quite profound - and i had to go in stages of approx 10mg increments

i make the capsules myself so can dose as needed - as described earlier in this thread

you can also try every other day dosing 50mg to further reduce the dose if needed - as this seems to be effective for reducing herx during ramp up.

i would also wait until MB dose is at target and symptoms stable before adding fibrinolytic agents - they are known to significantly / drastically increase potency of antimicrobials and cause additional herx - sometimes dramatically

especially lumbrokinase - which i found to be 8x as strong as bromelain ( bromelain and serrapeptase similar potency i think )

i would be cautious of making the mistake of thinking these things are mild over the counter supplements - if you have Lyme etc and are taking antimicrobials concurrently,

in my view its better to take an extra week adding one thing at a time than have a major flare of symptoms and have to hold off everything for weeks. you will also get a better understanding of which thing does what in your particular case.

Almost through my second month on MB with Biaxin, Bactrim, and recently added lumbrokenase. Some sx improvings. How long should I stay on the MB?

Garzie said...
i had to build up very gradually with methylene blue - initially only 10-20mg per day

otherwise the herx like effects were too strong - heart palpitations, sleep problems, fatigue

many people on the Methylene Blue for bartonella FB group report the same

Same here. It was intense herxing. I could only tolerate 25mg every 3 days or so. When I would increase the dose I would herx and I stepped it back down.

I am taking Methylene Blue in almond oil filler 50 mg from Rockridge pharmacy every night and I am having diarrhea and bloating and tiredness is that a normal Herx. I took it 3 days. does it go away after few days?

as i answered to your other post - many people have trouble taking even 25mg of MB a day initially and have to work up more gradually

any LLMD worth their salt should know how to adjust their protocols to suit each individual client

i suggest you discuss it with them making clear you don't think you can tolerate higher doses

treating lyme disease and co-infections is not a sprint - but a marathon - and you can only go at a pace your body can handle

"It is becoming a general consensus among Integrative Doctors that our present Cancer "Pandemic" may be caused by Lymes Disease that may be tied to our DNA and passed down generationally."

i follow a number of well known integrative doctors and must say i have not heard any of them express that theory

i can imagine an integrative doctor of some kind some where saying something along those lines
but i do not see it as a consensus at all. Far from it
the consensus i hear from integrative doctors is that most chronic disease is caused in large part by factors in our lifestyle, diet, and environment rather than mainly genetics.

do you have any sources or references to support such a statement ?