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Posted 11/30/2023 4:00 PM (GMT 0)
This is my first post here and first I wanted to say hello smile
I have been diagnosed with Lyme disease and Bartonella and about a year ago I slowly started introducing various herbs one by one. I am 60% better at this point.
And now to the question:
Have any of you had low erythrocytes and hemoglobin while on Buhners protocol for Lyme and Bartonella?
And at the same time iron and B12 etc are normal (both are quite high for me actually)
Can any infection cause this?
I read somewhere that sida acuta can lower red blood cells, but it's hard to find information about it, some studies say it doesn’t

I would be grateful for any suggestions
Posted 11/30/2023 6:28 PM (GMT 0)
Hello and welcome to the forum!

i had anaemia of unknown origin - well before my bartonella diagnosis

this is pretty standard in bartonella infections - its just something that Bartonella does -

mine was cyclical - so it would be there on one test - and then a few weeks or months later it would be gone again
at which point conventional medicine said - "ah that's OK then" and lost interest in looking any further - ignorant of that fact that if they tested in another few weeks it would be present again

have you had multiple tests with low erythrocytes several weeks apart -

if its just one or two tests where they are low - it could well be that yours are doing something similar to mine - and each test is just a random window into the cycle

so i think its just something that bart does

i doubt sida is the cause
i have been talking large doses of sida, alchornea and cryptolepis for many months now and my blood markers are always in normal range or very close to it - red blood cells are always within range
i am also 60-70% recovered.

one obvious thing to rue out is gross internal bleeding long term - eg black tar-like stools - untreated celiac disease or other severe intestinal bleeding disorder - basically these deplete the red blood cells quicker than the bone marrow can make more (same reason as bart causes anaemia) - but i think you would know about those

if its persistent - it could be some form of genetically predisposed anaemia - when mine popped up the same hospital had a research arm who had developed a genetic testing screen for around 40 mutations that can cause anaemia - so they ran my blood through that test - but no mutations were found.

even if genetic - since presumably it didn't seem to cause an issue before - its likely its just a predisposition rather than an inevitability - so will resolve with treatment of the infections - when the toll on your system is reduced

all the best!
Posted 12/2/2023 11:57 AM (GMT 0)
Thank you for your response!
I'll check the results again in two weeks, I'm very curious to see what it will show
I will definitely continue diagnosing if the results will be the same, but it sounds logical that Bart does it
Posted 12/2/2023 2:04 PM (GMT 0)
Welcome to the forum!

Anemia, especially hemolytic anemia, can be caused by Babesia infection, antibiotics in the sulfa and penicillin families, and by autoimmune processes that attack red blood cells (which can be triggered by infections).

I'm not sure about herbs triggering it, but since herbal medicine is medicine, I'm sure it's possible. I had bleeding issues while on the Buhner protocol, but they resolved quickly when I stopped the protocol.
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