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I called them, they take no insurance. They told me a 4-6 week treatment would run me about $40-60,000.00. Not remotely possible for me. 

I received a response via e-mail from Envita about a month ago and was told that treatment is approximately $2,500 - $3,800 per week and usually lasts 6-8 weeks. The first rep I spoke to on the phone a few weeks before told me to expect about $18,000 for the entire course of treatment. There seems to be a very big difference in quotes being given. Most of us do not have unlimited funds and need to know exactly what we are dealing with before signing on for a treatment that we will possibly not be able to afford to finish. If cost was not an issue I would definitely go to Envita. Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to do so but I'll keep playing lotto and hopefully one day ....

Unfortunately, I don't believe there is a cure and the best we all can hope for is a very long remission. I guess I'm attracted to the idea of intense short-term treatment which I realize doesn't necessarily translate into long-lasting results. Also realize that because a treatment works for some doesn't mean it works for all.

I am very happy for Martha's Vineyard that she has had such great results from Envita and appreciate that she shared her experience.

Still hoping to win lotto! LOL

Getting a handle on stress? I believe stress caused me to go down hill.

And even more stress brought on more symptoms...

So my next question is this...Since Envita says there's NO cure in no uncertain terms, and my doctor says there's NO cure in no uncertain terms -- and that they will focus instead of a cure on my ability to "function" thank you very much, can I just stop treatment altogether and should I and what will happen to me?

The reason I ask is I don't want to just "function" I want to L-I-V-E. If I'm just prolonging a life of functioning, well, folks, that ain't livin' that's diein'

I agree with you, dorit. I think we do not have the means to test whether the Lyme (and coinfections) bacteria are gone or not, therefore we cannot say for sure whether there is or is not a cure. The human body has an amazing capacity for healing, we shouldn't underestimate what it can do given the right circumstances.

My understanding is this: If a person has a healthy immune system when they are first infected, and they get the right antibiotics right away, then their chances of making a complete recovery are much greater than those of us who either never got the necessary antibiotics right away (or were not given abx for sufficient amount of time) or did not have a strong immune system to begin with.

Take care,

OK Here's my 2 cents..... I have had lyme and co onfections for about 18 years before being treated 2 1/2 years ago with antibiotics,  IV the works. Through the years I saw over 32 doctors who all said I was fine--even though I dragged my entire left side and was losing my sight  along with dozens of other symptoms. I have had so many different combinations of drugs I could open my own pharmacy. Now I am adding cowden herbs in hopes to get off antibiotics some day this year. One hour I can feel great and the next feel awful..thats the way this is sometimes. But mostly I feel better. In the past when I got tired of the meds, I went off only to have the symptoms come roaring back.

While I still have some symptoms I have improved enormously as my immune system gets stronger and stronger. Last year I couldn't even drink filtered water without my tongue burning as if I had hot pepper on it and I couldn't take suppliments and had many chemical sensitivities which have gone away completely as I kill the bacteria.

Bottom line.....I say this with caution because many times when things get better other things surface..tomorrow I may feel differently, however today I believe I will get this in remission. Hang in there--stick with meds even if they make you feel like crap which is how they make me feel after I take them sometimes because you must get the bacteria or it will get you. It will creep back slowly but surely it will get you. If you are having symptoms then you need to be on something..... meds or herbal but something.

There are certain probiotics that combat the diarrea you suffer with-you should be on them. If you don't know what they are let me know. Blessings

ok...now that the kids have left the room and I could read all of the comments above. It sounds like everyone is on the right track. yippie.
I am now growing a garden with my 5 year old. Lilly got lyme too many times and again last summer. Some days her legs hurt alot. And we call it her old lady days.
She is sensitive to the sun...loud music and gets mirganes easily. So....since I took her to Envita and they said she was too little to treat just yet.
Oh...I aslo flew her up to see Dr. Jones In CT. in Dec.
She was super ill when she first got it when she was 11 mos. Oh gosh..I will have to post a lilly story. Too much for now.
In short: heavy abx made her scary worse. I felt awful and scared of killing her on the abx. She couldn't attend school. And of course many Dr.s could not agree on her illness...even with Tick in hand in jar and bulls eye.....@#$%^&*(*&^%$#
So...back to our GARDEN....LOL We grow tomatoes and hot peppers.
The plants that we water everyday..sometimes twice a day, and do not let get too much sun, and put in the best soil, and give fert. to every week or so...yes worm castings. Are going nuts.
The soil is everything. And so is the tons of water.
So this helps me with her. She thinks of herself as a plant now. And she drinks a lot of water...on her own...no junk....no coke ever.
And she takes all of the immune stuff stired into her juice that enivta gave to us.
We also take extra vit. C in a gummie bear form.
And flint stones chewable. etc.
Of course we watch her diet, but she loves suger. So she has gone from being sick every two weeks, to every 3 mos now.
And she had not had a 106 fever in a long time. I make sure she gets her rest. Does not over do it..and we stick to a very strict routine...kids love that. I also suggest that for adults. I did not like suprises when I was sick. Couldn't handle new stuff at all.
I must say that I did not do the whole envita protical. I refused to continue abx. I left with a bag full. I did not take them.
I wanted my body to get over everything and to see where I was.
Just like a little tomatoe plant. One cannot spray for bugs every day and expect any fruit.
I have been great for 6 mos now.
The chelation made me feel awful and I think it was a waste of my time. My two cents. I think the supp. were key in my success, cause I am always starving myself to be thin. And the Ozone gave my body the boost...like a battery boost to defend itself some and put the lyme in jail. I don't think it is gone...just in jail now.

Ozone....they call it something else too.....ask in a post.......many on here are better at posting a link with the specific info. They take alot of blood out of the port....IVing and cleaning it. And then add a gas to it. Hydro. I think. There are two. I think it is the 3. Gezzz....I sound like an idiot...I know.
When I got to the clinic the sight of blood use to make me faint.
I am best going into a surgical thing...not knowing much....or I get ill...lol
I could barely read when I got there anyways and did not care about anything at all.
But they take the blood and it looks like ink...they bring it back in about 5 min.s and it is about 4 times larger....and full of bubbes and much lighter in color.
It is actually pretty. They pump it back in....slowly. I would get this sort of head rush....like I had flipped over in a cart wheel. But it made me feel great.
The only thing that set me back was the actual surgery of the port being put in. But I was able to drive myself around a strange city all alone. That was a big deal for me.

Yes Hoping. I am all better. It is very strange and takes a long time to get use to. It changes you to the very bone. It is much worse than getting better from like cancer. Where they only find a bump and get chemo. Lymies are the walking dead for so long....that we forget how life ever really was.
Or maybe not forget so much. But just never think that we will ever get there again. And with no one really abe to give us the right answers....after 35 DR.s....and so many drugs....it is awful.
But....It has changed me. I am not the same person. I only care about my kids and my animals. I am also able to connect to people better now. I have no desire to shop...and do not care for material things at all. I will not wear jewerly and feel that showing wealth is just tacky as all get out.
I live in flip flops...lol....I take my daughter to school on a double bike now.....talk about green...lol
I take my bulldog Popeye to the beach for his wall....everyday.
I help people everyday. I smile at everyone...mostly the poor. And I thank god every day that I am here to take care of my kids.
I tried to turn in my fancy mercedes for a beattle...lol...but they wanted so much $$$$...ha...so whatever....who knew.
I talk about Lyme every where.....every darn day.
I spray my yard every month...I live in avons skin so soft repellent. Lilly too.
I take handfuls of vit.s a day.
I eat well.
And that is it. I am tearful as I write this, because I fee bad for tellling so many of you who are still feeling so sick how great I feel.
But I am going to post about Lilly who is doing so much better...and not with the aid of drugs and abx..and maybe that will be of help to you...
:>)

gosh after reading everyons comments above...I forget what I am going to say...lol.....:>)
Oh....no, I don't put skin so soft on my dogs...
But I don't take them to public places around other dogs...no way.
I have my yard treated over 6 months.
They have their revelation treatments etc. I give them baths often. I don't let them sleep in the house anymore.
Etc.
I wash their dog bed every other day....
They do not scratch.
And I would rather shot myself than let them near a forest.
I am on the beach. Still very careful.