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Posted 1/6/2010 7:36 PM (GMT 0)
springsjean,
I had read that also! please let us know how it works.
Posted 1/6/2010 9:38 PM (GMT 0)
I don't know why this post came up again but just want to say I no longer use HH capsules. I was up to 20 a day and I relapsed. They may be helpful to keep you in remission for a while or to use with an abx but they will probably not make you well. I don't believe any of the herbs will unless combined skillfully with many other herbs and supplements, and taken in massive amounts, way over the recommended dose.

Levaquin is best but the side effects are dangerous. Load up on magnesium and other minerals before starting it
Rifampin is supposed to be good. It is slowly helping me. You need to use it with another drug like biaxin or zithromax.
The herbs that supposedly help with bart are HH capsules (houtouynia), resveratrol, stephania and cumanda.

I think you need brain and nervous system support with supplements such as magnesium (nerves, muscles, headaches) , B vitamins especially B12 (nerves, twitching) and B6 (anger), zinc (and copper), alpha lipoic acid (antioxidant, detox)and acetyl L carnitine (memory and cognition as well as energy).Also Huperzine A helps with dementia. I just got it today.
Get Buhner's book Healing Lyme. It is wonderful for supplements.
Posted 12/12/2010 6:19 PM (GMT 0)
HH is complete nonsense to me. what the hell does "HH" stand for? I'm getting really tired of people using abbreviations for everything around here. How am I supposed to know what you are talking about?
Posted 12/12/2010 7:05 PM (GMT 0)
dcraver89, your post is rude and uncalled for, since nefferdun had written the following sentence in that post: "The herbs that supposedly help with bart are HH capsules (houtouynia), resveratrol, stephania and cumanda."

I'm not a moderator nor am I trying to be one, but I just don't think that nefferdun deserves that.

If you had bothered to read through the entire post carefully, you would have seen this sentence and realized that HH apparently refers to a herb called houtouynia that helps with Bartonella. At least, that's what it looks like to me. I don't know what HH is other than what I read in the post, either...but I'm not going to throw a childish tantrum about it.

We do understand being in a bad mood because of Lyme disease; there is such a thing as "Lyme rage" which can cause a person to do and say things that they would normally never do! But please try to be kinder and more respectful to your fellow Lymies.....we're all sick too!

Have you read through the information for newcomers at the top of the forum? That might help with some abbreviations.
Posted 12/20/2010 12:45 AM (GMT 0)
It is funny. I haven't been on here in such a long time, probably since that last post in January and here this topic is up again! Does someone need help with bart?

One of the most effective drugs is Levaquin; cipro and factive which are in the same family are also used. If you try levaquin you need to load up on magnesium and vitamin C weeks before taking it and while on it (taking at different times) to minimize the risk of tendon damage. My advice is to quit if there is any pain.

Rifampin with a macrolide (biaxin, zithromax, ketek or roxithromycin) is the next most often prescribed drug combo. Rifabutin (also known as mycobutin) is in the same family as Rifampin and has fewer drug interactions.

Bactrim DS taken with a macrolide is also used. I did not get much improvement with Rifampin but the Bactrim combo helped although it was slow.

If you are treating borellia, bartonella and babesia you can use Bactrim DS, zithro and mepron.

I really don't think herbs work with bart. It is just too virulent. I tried them all. But supposedly you need to take something to attack the biofilm. I was taking the amino acid cysteine and lumbrokinase. I also threw in resveratrol.

Now the bartonella has gone under cover and babesia is on center stage. Good luck to whoever brought this up.
Posted 6/29/2011 2:03 PM (GMT 0)
Hello, I've been taking Doxy and Rifampin for over three weeks and have been going through serious herx including anxiety and depression. Can you tell me how long these symptoms will take to subside? I've had Bart since 1998 and my doctor never tested for this bacteria. I self-diagnosed and had to get the Rifampin without a perscription because my doctor would not perscribe it.
Posted 6/29/2011 2:35 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Strongwill, I started a new thread with your question so it was easier for everyone to see.
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