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CDC QUICKLY REMOVES WEBSITE DATA STATING LONE STAR AND BROWN DOG TICKS TRANSMIT LYME DISEASE

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Posted 10/29/2010 2:16 PM (GMT 0)
I hope that this is as offensive to others as it was to me. This is from the Missouri Lyme on-line support group (I am a member) about an article that was posted on the Georgia Lyme Facebook page.

First is the post announcing the news, complete with the links to the CDC websites that once stated the connection - although those have been "fixed" now so that info is no longer found there.

The second is from Missouri Lyme on-line support as well, asking for our help.

BTW, I am one of those that is mentioned in that article in the part about Dr. Ed Masters (RIP) & his experiences with the Lone Star Tick.
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Fwd: CDC acknowledges other tick vectors transmit Lyme
Posted by: "Gary Vaught" [email protected] gvaught
Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:05 pm (PDT)


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Please print out these CDC pages and spread to medical community. Lyme
should be a differential diagnosis in every area where these ticks are
found.

From Georgia Lyme Disease Association Facebook page:

CDC website notes the aggresive Lone Star tick, Amblyomma americanum, the
tick most commonly found biting Southeastern humans, transmits Lyme disease.
GA Lyme has documented human Lyme cases from Lone Stars. As one researcher
told us, even if only 1% of Lone Stars are infected, because they bite
humans so often and are so widespread, it poses a TREMENDOUS health threat.
This information changes the Lyme disease prevalence map, as Lone stars are
found from Florida to Canada and halfway across the country. Your chances of
getting Lyme in these areas are far greater than previously calculated, when
they used "deer ticks" alone. This again raises the question: How many
people are being misdiagnosed due to the medical myth that "we don't have
Lyme here"? We call upon public health officials to promptly educate the
medical community and public.

www.dpd.cdc.gov/DPDx/HTML/ImageLibrary/S-Z/Ticks/body_Ticks_il1.htm

Former prevalence studies that only take "deer ticks" into account are
worthless. Our friends at California Lyme Disease Association point out
(thanks, CALDA!) , the CDC's tick image library notes increasing reports of
the Brown Dog Tick (found almost worldwide) transmitting disease to humans,
including Borrelia burgdorferi, Lyme Disease.


www.dpd.cdc.gov/DPDx/HTML/ImageLibrary/S-Z/Ticks/body_Ticks_il4.htm

Liz
Fwd: ARTICLE: Please share: CDC QUICKLY REMOVES LYME DISEASE WEBSITE
Posted by: "Gary Vaught" [email protected] gvaught
Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:11 pm (PDT)


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CDC QUICKLY REMOVES WEBSITE DATA STATING LONE STAR AND BROWN DOG TICKS
TRANSMIT LYME DISEASE

The article named above was posted on Georgia Lyme Disease Association's
home page this morning and sent to reporters, politicians, etc. Please
share.


georgialymedisease.org/yahoo_site_admin/assets/docs/ws-rCDC_removes_Bb_vectors.30094848.pdf

Thanks,

liz
Georgia Lyme Disease Association
Posted 10/30/2010 3:41 AM (GMT 0)
THANK YOU, TRAVELER!!

In May of 07 when we removed (yanked off) the tick on my back, we all (me and my kids) examined it and looked it up. It was small, probably a nymph, and we all came to the computer to look it up. My recollection is not much less than positive that this was a Lone Star Tick, and wherever we found this online, it was described as a Lyme carrying tick.

2 years later, when I came to the conclusion that I had Lyme (based on cases written up in our local paper), I wrote to the CDC (because I knew no better....) I mistakenly believed that the CDC was wanting to track this disease. UH..... No.

Further, they stated (in email) in NO uncertain terms that the Lone Star Tick does not carry or transmit Lyme disease.

I know that most Drs and people believe that. But to me, it makes no sense.

1) At the time, the park (trails and woods, etc) that I frequent w/ my dogs had the highest density of deer than anywhere else in this country. (they have since killed appx 70% of the deer population there). There is also a high density of ticks -- probably all kinds.

2) WHY would only 1 type of tick carry and spread LYme? Does the Lone Star pick and choose what species of animal it will bite? WHY would the other ticks feed off of the vermin, contracting the infection, but Lone Star ticks don't?

Sure seems to me that if Lyme is out there and there are plenty of animals to infect and carry Lyme, then ALL types of ticks out there are a risk. And it sure sounds dumb to say, 'Lone Star ticks do not carry Lyme' -- because if there is a lot of Lyme disease out there, I don't know WHY the Lone Star would not contract it and then pass it on.

When was it that the CDC removed Lone Stars? I ask because I am positive that we looked up my tick and read that it was a carrier of Lyme Disease. Then, all of a sudden, the CDC (and others) are saying the Lone Star tick does NOT carry Lyme disease.

Trav -- I understand that you have Masters, correct? And I understand that it is not that uncommon around MO -- I Live in KS, very close to the MO border. But I am thinking that, because I believe I was bitten by a Lone Star, and IF I contracted Masters and not LYme, then my WB would not indicate Lyme specific bands, would it? ie; If you have Masters and not Lyme, would you find LYme antibodies in the lab tests?
Posted 10/30/2010 3:54 AM (GMT 0)
I thought Masters = Lyme???
Posted 10/30/2010 3:01 PM (GMT 0)
HI +Lyme & Razzle!!

Yes, Lone Star ticks carry Lyme, but not according to any "officials". I got this info from Dr. Ed Masters, as I was a patient of his back in 2007. He told me then that I had LD - no doubt - but the "officials" wouldn't recognized it as such because I was not testing positive for it at that time, so he dxed me with Masters (aka - STARI, as it was known back then).

He had been able to prove that a "Lyme-like illness deserved Lyme-like treatment" & that those treatments worked for most people that had been infected with Masters. He was quite brilliant in my opinion, as he was able to treat many LD patients because of this. He was also the one who told me that I had so many symptoms that he believed I was carrying all of the common co's as well.

I have actually had many Lone Star ticks attach since moving here - Northern Arkansas, about an hour's drive from the MO line, and have had a positive WB come back a fistful of times after having had one attach & sxs flare. My gp no longer even asks about the details when I call & tell him I've had another tick attached & symptoms flare - he just calls in another round of Doxy.

The reason I posted this was because I had just 'found' the Ga. Lyme website & thought it to be a good one to watch. I had been checking out all of their links, so I saw this info that has suddenly disappeared with my own eyes not three or four days before I received the email stating that the CDC removed some of the info!!!

I was a little appalled at the audacity. I'm not sure if there is a better way to show that something is being hidden.

Thank you both for responding to this info!!!
Posted 10/31/2010 6:25 PM (GMT 0)
Trav,

I need to get this straight: if bitten by a Lone Star and Masters is contracted from that bite, will Lyme antibodies show in a test? (not counting reliability or lack of)
Posted 10/31/2010 6:39 PM (GMT 0)
yup i find it offensive when we are lied to. I suspected the dog tick could transmit the disease a long time ago. there have been other studies showing that one the dog tick has the disease but it is uncertain if it transmits it to other organisms. Then one article came out and stated it was proven the dog tick could transmit illness, just as the deer tick. This type of research is put away in a drawer or burned.
Posted 10/31/2010 10:45 PM (GMT 0)
+Lyme, the short answer is yes. If a person is going to test positive to anything, it will be to Lyme. Although, we do have to remember that there are many strains of Lyme that have yet to be indentified, much less have a test to detect them!!

Roses,
NOT that I agree with their actions, but -- If you think of it from their position, it could create a panic if word got out that ALL ticks carry & transmits not only Lyme , but a whole host of other potentially lethal diseases. Also, think of what it would do to the Social Security Disability if someone was allowed to link all of this together & make it possible for people who end up being ill for a long time to be able to qualify for some form of disability.

SSD would sure owe me a whole truck load of money if that were the case!!! I was first infected at the age of 5 & have "always" been the one sick (but not often has it been life-threatening) - ans that was over 40 years ago!!
Posted 10/31/2010 11:13 PM (GMT 0)
well I think its sad Traveler that you have been sick since 5. I am guessing you got your treatment late?
Posted 11/1/2010 12:22 AM (GMT 0)
Heck the hospital didn't even know what I had! The hard part was growing up with these horrible periods that kept happening in my life where I was suddenly ill, quite a few times in my life I have been bed-ridden with no idea why.

My first LD treatment didn't happen until 2007.

The saddest thing to me is that I know that I am not alone. My heart breaks as I read posts here. Especially those that come here & are not able to get a positive test result even though by symptoms there is no doubt.
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