SAMENTO & BANDEROL HAS ANYBODY TRIED THESE????

Hi Sassy!
There have been several discussions here about those products. You should use the search function here, I'm sure it will pull up the info you are asking for.

YES!!!!!

THEY ARE INCLUDED IN MY COWDEN PROTOCOL. THEY SEEM TO MAKE ME HERX.


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Quick ? then....Do we want to always herx? I have been on ABX and my LLD just put me on another one and for the first time I am herxing. Obviously I feel worst than I ever have but do I just hang in there or go back on the ABX that made me feel more normal? I am thinking those aren't really killing off these buggers.

herxing is typically a good sign but you want to minimize it as much as possible. Try to kill the bacteria slowly so you don't overwhelm your system with toxins. If you've had lyme for a while, although, this is pretty much impossible. You WILL herx. and it can be BAD.

I am on Biaxin and Amoxc. I just ordered Samento and Banderol. At first I just picked up some cats claw from Whole Foods. I took 30 drops twice that day. On Monday, I felt HORRIBLE....took a nap and then went to bed and slept for like 13 hours!!! I think I was definitely herxing.

Now, I read to get Samento because it's TAO free. So, I tried 2 drops two days ago, 3 drops last night. It's weird, because as soon as I drink them, I start feeling symptoms arise.. I guess this is a good thing but I'm not sure.

I haven't cleared taking these things with my antibiotics, so I'm a little nervous but gosh....I just want to kill these bacteria like yesterday!!!!

I read to take 30 drops of the Banderol at night but I'm afraid.

Anyone on Antibiotics AND taking these products????

Thanks Sassy1014!!!!

Hi Sassy-
I have been doing better than ok on Samento and Serrapeptase Enzymes. I am allergic to antibiotics and some other meds so this is the route I am taking. My worst weird Lyme symptoms besides the overwhelming fatigue were fragmented strobing vision, bladder insufficiency and a crawling sensation on the side of my head with sharp stabbing and itching pains outside of my ear. With the Samento (Nutramedix), the visual disturbance is gone! and it had plagued me for more than 15 years. Also, the crawling sensation under my skin is almost gone. Since adding the serrapeptase, My thinking is clearer, the bladder problems are getting better and other things are improving. I just started the Banderol today so I'll have to wait and see what that does. With the Samento, I can only take 3-5 drops two or three times a day. The herx reactions/fatigue get rough if I take much more than that. I was misdiagnosed for years. My family doctor won't touch Lyme, but he has prescribed Provigil(great stuff) for the narcolepsy like symptoms. I have a homeopathic doctor that detoxes the herxheimer reactions. The Serrapeptase is breaking up other biofilms and uncovered old Toxoplasmosis I've been harboring and some other weird invaders. I am hopeful, praising God and pretty tired. Don't give up on the Samento. I really like the the Serrapeptase better than the Wobenzym and other proteolytic enzymes I've tried and it doesn't upset my stomach.

As Vitamin Grama said in an earlier post, i cannot stress enough the significance of Serrapeptase. It disolves the protein bio film surrounding the lyme/bab/whatever that protects it against/confuses our immune system, and i have a theory it reduces herx dramatically by dissolving the dead bacteria floating around after it's been killed so that it can get out of your system faster/ have less effects on you. In short, it potentizes every antibiotic/antimicrobial you can take meany times over, and alerts your immune system to the invader for possibly the first time.

Nattokinase, and lumbrokinase(lumbro is ridiculously expensive) are also great, but i have a feeling they will work a little less. I have not tried any of these, but i am about to purchase serrapeptase and am sure it will work due to my research.

Edit: One question that i have is if papayin is a good protease enzyme or a bad one that inhibits other proteases... essentially, im unsure weather Cysteine proteases are good or bad for our battle. maybe someone who knows sciency words better can get a better grasp of this and get back so i dont have to look up every word/concept i am stumbling apon.

And one more important share - for babesia, apparently (also by nutramedix) enula and mora are also in the realm of samento and banderol's potency.

once again, i havn't tried these, but i am sure they will work. but i will report back my dose of each once started and my herx.

GL and much love, yall

Post Edited (BeautyBeyondTheGrasp) : 10/22/2012 3:20:29 PM (GMT-6)

I have these herbs on my Cowden protocol, i have been taking for 8 days. like everyone says........it is different for everyone.........best of luck to you.

i am a little scared of the Herks reaction"!