Circulation?

borderlyme,

I get the exact same thing. Sometimes it's hard to hold a book up to read as it's like all the blood runs out of my arms and there is no circulation. I am constantly rubbing my arms and legs to try and get the blood flowing. It can almost be painful as well. Mine used to be my right side, but lately it has been more on the left. When it is in my legs, my toes feel numb, and in my arms my fingers feel numb. Do you get sensations in your face as well?

Lyme has a major effect on circulation because it causes thick blood. I don't know if that's what causes the tingling or falling asleep feeling but they are also both common lyme symptoms. I had them both, no so much anymore, and also had raynauds symptoms which causes a blueness to my hands with a change in temperature which for me is in the shower every morning.

As far as the toxins not being proven, because lyme is so new, I don't think there is comparatively much research yet proven. For a disease that affects so many, there isn't even an accurate test yet.

Lyme can also cause muscle wasting. Also, neurological problems caused by the bacteria, toxins, ammonia or acidic conditions, cause cause the tingling or muscle problems. They are such scary symptoms. I remember hardly being able to hold my arms up long enough to wash my hair in the shower. I can finally feel my right pinky after about a year. Woohoo. It's the simple things in life we grow to appreciate.

I get tingly on my left knee, pinky and left side of my face. I also notice that my left leg feels cold compared to my right side and my left foot seems just a -little- puffy sometimes.

This is something I am deeply involved with and following very closely.

(I was bitten by a tick 15-20 yrs ago, had rash, recent W-B's have returned IGG23 and IGM23, CD-57 of 16)

It is well known that Lyme Disease causes vasculitis which restricts bloodflow.

I am beginning to develop a theory which suggests that the Lyme is trying to transform our bodies into a more suitable breeding ground by lowering the overall supply of oxygen to infected parts of our bodies.

As some of you may know, I am a MS sufferer who has undergone a new, controversial procedure called the Liberation Procedure. In a nutshell, it is believed that many MS'ers suffer from a condition in which the jugular veins restrict bloodflow through the brain by decreasing drainage because the veins are constricted in a manner (valve or vein stenosis). Liberation means using venous angioplasty (ballooning or stenting) to correct this outflow problem.

I have had the procedure done twice by the most experienced doctors in the U.S. (One in NY and one in CA)

I have also had a stent placed in my left internal jugular vein, because the vein itself had shriveled down to a 2 mm diameter. This is a 10mm+ vein normally when fully draining! (You should know here that the internal jugular veins only drain blood from the brain when laying down. The vertebral veins perform this function when you are upright. As a result, vein diameters vary depending on the body's position and so jug veins must be looked at while laying down.)

The valves of the juguar veins have been found to be the most common cause of stenosis.

Summary of procedures:
1st - mild balloong of right and left IJV's valves (Internal Jugular Veins)
2nd- stent placed in compressed left iliac vein (May Th8rner's Syndrome)
3rd- stent placed in left IJV (vein was 2 mm fully dilated)
4th- radical ballooning of right and left IJV valves

I experienced short-term improvement and then declined after each procedure. Many who undergo the procedure experience flu-like symptoms afterwards (which may be a die-off of the infection due to increased oxygen).

I believe that my stenoses were caused by Lyme and that is why the procedures did not provide me with any long lasting benefits - the Lyme was never treated and so kept causing the vasculitis.

I never made the connection until I saw rhis article about a Lyme patient who underwent the procedure:

http://www.bclocalnews.com/vancouver_island_south/sookenewsmirror/news/128686508.html

I am also thinking that the hands and feet are affected most because they are further from the heart which might allow the Lyme to thrive best there.

That would be a good idea! We seem to have quite a few of our members that are dealing with thick blood. The other thing you could do is to use our search function - I have found that the search function here is a lot of help!

Here is a site I just found - rather interesting reading. According to this site, I now know why I don't deal with the 'thick blood' issue! I take all of the botanical and vitamin that is recommended for thick blood. Hmm. Not sure just how accurate the recommendations are though, I haven't had time to check them out, so take all with a grain of salt please!

www.digitalnaturopath.com/cond/C546009.html

Borderlyme,

I know this is an old thread, but I was wondering- do you still have this problem? I've been experiencing a rush of blood feeling in the side of my head and other places off and on. I've also had it feel like the back of my head, arm, legs, ect. are falling asleep after leaning against something. Just curious as to whether you figured this out.

Oh, I'm sorry to be discouraging SleeplessNJ. I've been doing abx for 4 months and do feel better than last summer. I actually get out and do things more often now, like take my kids to the park or go to Bible study. I have new symptoms that keep popping up, but I still feel like things are better than last fall.

The anxiety is the worst, I think. How are you feeling now?

Scarlett--you are way too sweet to ask about me. Gosh, this group rocks!! I walked away and felt a little better. I have my ups and downs..mostly downs which is hard and very discouraging. But it is so amazing to be able to come here and talk it out with you all and actually have someone ask how *I* am doing when they are the same. I am truly touched. Bless you.

So I think this is a good thread to bring back.

There's been multiple post lately about tingling and numb extremities.

This was a symptom of mine really early on that went away but then came back in full force after I relapsed.

Proper blood circulation has been running through my mind but couldn't put the pieces together so it's good to see another thread from years past of people trying to piece it together as well.

My hypothesis in which I'm trying to look more into is blood circulation and lyme. How it could be the culprit, indirectly (as lyme is the direct culprit) of many of the different lyme symptoms we feel and experience including tissue breakdown.

If proper blood flow isn't getting into these areas, many things needed to keep healthy tissue and cells in these areas may not receive it (adequately), thus explaining why certain symptoms maybe worse in certain parts of the body.

Once again bumping this old thread to see after 6 years if any new insight could be added.

bump.

I have before but not currently. I'll look into.

The circulation thing is one of my most annoying symptoms. It is the thing I feel the most.

I feel like I have water running down my legs sometimes due to some issue with the nerves.

A bizarre symptom I have that I'm wondering if anyone else has; I frequently get little 5-10 second bursts of pain/tingling/tinnitus.

Some examples for context:
-feels like air is being sucked out of my ear and it starts ringing for 5-10 seconds
-back of my head will start tingling intensely for 5-10 seconds
-pain/discomfort around lower abdomen 5-10 seconds
-left hang has a shooting pain and again lasts 5-10 seconds

Just curious if anybody has this.