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Posted 9/28/2012 5:28 AM (GMT 0)
Hello there. I am new to this forum although have read quite a few posts, especially on Hansa Clinic.

I am going to be there from Oct 1-13 2012. Would anyone like to hear about my experience? I am happy to share if it is helpful. And it would be nice to hear from other people.

It has been very helpful to me to read of other's experiences while I was deciding whether to go or not.

My situation: 45 year old female. Onset of chronic fatigue 17 years ago. Diagnosed with chronic Lyme 3 years ago. Treated holistically by a doc who trained with Klinghardt. My doc uses plant stem cells as core treatment with supplements, herbal abx, (not pharma), detox and I take prescription thyroid and cortef. I use a FIR sauna regulary and also an ion footbath. Eat a very healthy, no gluten, no grain, whole food diet. Meditate, low stress lifestyle, etc.

It seems that detox is a huge deal still and causing much of my symptoms.

I have seen improvement in the past three years, but am still not able to live a "normal" life..fatigue comes and goes erratically and effects my work and life significantly still. However, I have never been bedridden with it, thankfully.

I read Jernigan's book, 2nd edition "Beating Lyme". It is very much in line with my philosophy and my doctor's, but he goes farther and is doing some things that my doc is not: cold body temperature treatment, ammonia/toxins in the brain and the miasms/epigentic stuff. I am excited to get the diagnostics and treatment for these things.

Anyway....I will post more about my experiences if anyone is interested! Do tell me if so.

Best of luck and blessings to all!
Posted 9/28/2012 12:28 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Nan!!
Yes, please!! We would love to know about your experience there! We are always open to people sharing their experiences - as you know, it helps those looking for treatment options to know what goes on in whatever clinic that you are going to!

I'm so glad that you found us and that this site was able to help you in some way!! :-) That's why we do this!!

So please do tell all!! smilewinkgrin
Posted 9/28/2012 10:57 PM (GMT 0)
I hope the clinic helps you Nan. Please keep us apprised of you progress.
Posted 9/29/2012 4:44 AM (GMT 0)
Traveler and flowergal..thanks for kind words! I will keep you posted.

I hope to especially learn/post about:

Low body temp and how they address it, (my temp is consistently) low despite thryoid med
Leaky Brain/Ammonia in Brain, (supposed to be a cause for fatigue)
Miasms/homeopathy
CRT diagnostics


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chronic lyme (17 years), chronic fatigue main symtpom. Treated with plant stem cells, various herbal abx (artimisinin, wormwood, etc), neprinol (biolfilm), anti-parasite herbs, FIR saua, Ion foot bath, acupuncture, colonic therapy, various supplements tested with ART, cortef, thyroid meds.
Posted 9/29/2012 9:24 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Nan.

You wrote that you use an ion foot bath.I've got one, too.

I would be interested to hear about your experiences with it.

When I use mine, orange slime comes out of my body-it looks disgusting.However I'm still on the fence with this one,call me cynical but I can't quite believe that so many toxins can leave your body so quickly.
Posted 9/29/2012 11:09 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Nan and welcome!

Yes, I would love to hear updates!  That's so great that you read Dr. Jernigan's book so you know ahead of time what his views are on chronic illnesses and how he treats.  I never went to the Hansa Center (Dr. J's clinic) but I would have gone if I didn't get well using his "Healing at Home" protocol.   Actually one day I would really like to meet Dr. J. in real life!  I think he's brilliant!

You brought up ammonia in the body and I can not stress enough how many people overlook that or simply don't know about it.  Ammonia in my body and brain caused me many problems but thank goodness I took one of Dr. J's botanicals to bind up the ammonia so my body could get rid of it. 

I have a gut feeling that you are going to do great there!  I'm really excited for you! 

TickledPink, yes, all that gunk does come out of the pores in our feet.  Crazy me once did an experiment:  I sprinkled some table salt in a small area in my kitchen and with bare feet walked back and forth on it just to test the pores in my feet. 

I was shocked that I actually tasted salt in my mouth.  Yuck!  I was amazed that walking on salt for a short time went directly into my mouth and who knows where else?  I was one salty person for a while...  Good thing my blood pressure is on the low side!  Duh!  So what goes in must also come out, right?

I believe that each foot has an average of 3000 pores in each sole of one's foot.

From this site (#15):

There are approximately 250,000 sweat glands in a pair of feet, and they excrete as much as half a pint of moisture each day.

http://www.sickfoot.com/footfacts.html

Anyway, good luck Nan!

Denise

Posted 9/29/2012 3:02 PM (GMT 0)
Yes please! Hansa Center is very interesting to me. Like Denise, I'm considering going there if the other (cheaper) stuff I try first doesn't work.

I hope it works for you and that you STAY healed!

Take care, Jennifer
Posted 9/29/2012 7:42 PM (GMT 0)
LOL Denise!!! Does that mean that you are now well preserved? turn Giggle!!! smilewinkgrin
Posted 9/29/2012 11:29 PM (GMT 0)
LOL Traveler!  Hey, when I can fit into a pickle jar then I will be well preserved rolleyes smhair   shocked

Like those old wooden ones that our ancestors used or maybe they are still around?  I don't know!

Yet I was really surprised how fast that table salt went from the pores of my soles through my body (hey, I'm 5'6 tall) to get up to my mouth...  Salt travels fast!  Try it sometime!  LOL!

Denise

Posted 9/30/2012 1:41 AM (GMT 0)
5'6"?? smhair LOL!! Remind me never to stand too close to you!! LOL!!! smilewinkgrin

I've seen those tall wooden barrels you are talking about, I think they may be pretty much like a whiskey barrel. Giggle!!

The human body is soo amazing!! Although it needs a little help from time to time, it can do such amazing things!

I still crave salt something fearless sometimes - I think it's been due to not having the right support for my adrenals, which has been fixed now, so I think I'll lay off the salt for now, thanks!!LOL!!!
Although the visual of you pouring salt all over your floor and walking around in it to see what would happen is pretty good!!! Giggle!! turn
Posted 9/30/2012 3:22 AM (GMT 0)
Re: Ion Foot Bath (and pickles and salt?? :)..kidding! :)

TickledPink: I also have wondered exactly what it does..I researched it online when I first got one (a year ago) and found no actual studies that confirmed detox. But lots of claims.

BUT...Dr. Jernigan has written about studies that show the analysis of water before and after. ( I just read that a couple weeks ago in his book or online..can't remember where). Off the top of my head I don't remember exactly what..but it showed toxins coming out.

Also..Dr. Klinghardt says that they stimulate the liver meridian, I think in addition to pulling out toxins and the positive effect of the ions.

My expereince is that I always feel good and uplifted after the foot bath.

The water turns orange (like yours), then gets a whitish foam and then turns a greenish/black. yuck! I don't know if that is actually the toxins themselves, or the water turning color in reaction to the toxins and the array. I have a feeling if you just ran the array in a footbath without water, that it would turn colors. I have never tried it, though, have you? It has smelled "yeasty" sometimes, too and not other times, so I assumed it was pulling out candida.

It also seemed to help my sleep and decongest when I did them before bed when I had a bad sinus cold.

So...I do think they are beneficial and have been using mine more often lately.

Deejavu: that is wild that a pint of water sweats out of the feet! that and your salt experience make me think that indeed lots of toxins can be pulled out!

Jennifer and all: thanks for kind words!..I will start on Monday at Hansa and will post soon after that next week...
Posted 9/30/2012 12:58 PM (GMT 0)
Agree with the other posters, please do post about your Hansa experience. I'm very interested in hearing about it too.

Had never really paid much attention to the ion foot bath thing - you all have me intrigued.
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