does the detox baths and sauna therapy accomplish the same thing? One better than other

I would recommend starting a little slower w/ the detox baths. Taking one every day can set off a herx. The day after I found out that I had Lyme, I took 2 in one day and ended up in horrible pain all over the entire night.
I have found a sauna to be more effective than the baths, for me. So much so that I just ordered a portable infared sauna.
I can relate to the story of your vaca. I went on a beach vacation. This was before I knew I had Lyme. I felt the best that I've felt in 18 months while there and then had a massive flare after getting back. I think it was the salt water and heat that killed Lyme and detoxed my body.

I have noticed masses of improvement since buying an Ion foot bath.

I use them both if I'm doing a normal detox foot bath,but Ion foot baths don't require any additives,except a little salt if prefered.

I have a portable fir sauna. It is great. I have difficulty detoxing so the baths were making it worse. I do the sauna on level 2 of my sauna of 5 levels, every other day for now 20 mins. I slowly built up. I accidentally did level 3 over the holidays and was down and out for 3 days. There is some literature somewhere out there on the correct temp. My sauna just has levels, not temps. Once I can successfully bud up to 30 mins on level 2 then I will jump up to a lesser time in level 3 but I am not there yet. Slow and steady wins the race!

Back to the question about doing both the detox baths and the sauna. These things work differently, the best thing is to eventually use both. They both use heat, but the baths add extra magnesium that the sauna can't.

Do be careful about starting anything. Start all things (detoxing, supplements, meds) slowly!! Each thing can set off a herx, and although it may not be a "bad one", it still slows healing. The worse the herx, the less healing your body will be able to do as it deals with this new crisis and if the herx is bad enough, your body will quit healing until things settle down. A severe herx can send a person to the hospital. No need for that trip to happen!

So just take all things slowly. A while back, I tried using the foot detox pads several times. Simple enough, right? It set of massive migraines each time I tried to use them.

That's a good question!! I'm so glad you asked!
It's best to take it slow and start off with body temp water. As you can tolerate the effects of the bath better, then you start building up both the water temp and the amount of time spent in the bath.

As an example - start off with body temp water and only stay in the bath for 7 - 10 minutes. Keep both of these the same until you are tolerating this well - maybe a couple of weeks??? Once you can tolerate that pretty well, then increase your water temp. slightly and only stay in the water for 10 minutes. When you feel like you are tolerating that change well, then increase the amount of time in the water by just a few minutes - 12 - 14 minutes for example.

You will soon understand what I mean, as if you stay in the water too long or if your water temp is too hot, you will have an increase in symptoms - a herx. So pace yourself, each person is very different on this one as well.

The goal is to have the water quite warm - but careful to not get it too hot- and to stay in the water for a total of 20 - 30 minutes.

If, once you start the full detox baths, you find that you can't get started as you keep herxing, then switch to the foot soaks with Epsom salt and peroxide. They will do the same thing, only a bit slower. I still mainly use the detox foot baths as my detox pathways are still somewhat compromised, but I can keep up a regular detox routine without setting off herxes all the time.

If and when you start using the sauna, you'll need to be even more cautious, as they will also dehydrate you with the higher heat and all the sweating. When using the saunas (FIR or otherwise), a person needs to be pushing water consumption as hard as they can while in the sauna as well as afterwards.

taysdad,

I am not a physicist, but I can understand a little in how the detox approaches are different. The FIR sauna works by the penetration of energy on a specific wavelength on the electromagnetic spectrum. It is alleged to actually loosen the bonds of toxins that are lodged in the tissues. The Detox baths work a little differently. The materials in the water are absorbed trams-dermally, while the toxins are expelled through the opened pores.

I would recommend that both approaches be used. Start off slowly, but i would incorporate as many different detox approaches as possible eventually. Any individual approach will be perhaps more effective than another approach in detoxing any specific detox pathway. That is only my theory, but it was a valid approach with Heather. I have heard people say that one approach worked better for them than the other. That is to be expected, as every person is a unique individual, and will not respond the same. I would invite others to experiment on themselves, but slowly. If you reach a point where there is no further "return on investment," then back off. Some skeptics claim that there is no "science" involved with the approaches that healed my daughter. I beg to differ.

Good luck with whatever detox approach you take- taysdad.

Don

Post Edited (Heathersdad) : 1/3/2013 2:08:22 PM (GMT-7)

The 'harder' we herx, the less healing we will experience during that time.

Mild herxing - a slight increase in symptoms - is to be expected any time a new treatment or an increase in dosages occurs.

Herxing bad enough to interfere with your daily activities when that's not the norm, is not good, but not horrible.

Herxing bad enough to really interfere or stop you from doing the things you usually are able to do, or puts you in bed (or on the couch) all day is bad. From the research that I've done, this is the point in which your healing is really being compromised.

Of course herxing bad enough to send you in to the doc's or worse yet, the emergency room, I think we can all agree, is really bad and unhealthy.

I would really rather that no one take my word for it, but be honest with yourself, do your own research and be sure to read "both sides" of the issue. There is a ton of information from reliable sources on the internet about this!