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Posted 7/16/2013 7:37 PM (GMT 0)
Hi everyone!! I just wanted to post this though I'm sure many have seen it before. It kills me to think of so many people afraid of the outdoors. This is a relatively and I say 'relatively' affordable way to remain tick free. You can get an outfit treated for ~30$ USD approximately and it last for 70 washes. I am in no way affiliated with this company. I am however going to send out a full set of clothing to get treated and see how it works out. I can't stand the thought of not gardening or camping and honestly that isn't where I was exposed to the tick anyway. Plus I have dogs so there is no way to 100% protect yourself, there just isn't...unless you move to the sahara desert maybe??
http://www.tickencounter.org/prevention/insect_shield_your_own_clothes


* Permethrin is over 2,250 times more toxic to ticks than humans; so just a little bit provides great protection safely.

* The EPA states "...There is reasonable certainty that Permethrin-treated clothing poses no harm to infants or children".

* Put directly on the skin, typically less than 1% of active ingredient is absorbed into the body; DEET can be absorbed at over 20 times that rate.

* Exposure risk of Permethrin-treated clothing to toddlers is 27 times below the EPA's Level of Concern (LOC).

* A 140-pound person would have no adverse health effects if exposed to 32 gms of permethrin/day.There is less than 1 gram of permethrin in an entire bottle of clothing treatment.

* A 5% cream (10 times the dose) is recommended to treat children and infants with mites called scabies.


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    Post Edited By Moderator (Traveler) : 4/13/2015 7:31:07 AM (GMT-6)

    Posted 7/17/2013 1:08 AM (GMT 0)
    We get ours from REI. I spray all our daughter's clothes before she goes to horse camp in the summer. The dog's beds are sprayed every couple of months. Golf shoes and socks as well.

    It degrades in sunlight so may need to be applied if in the sun.

    I don't think spirochetes can survive the heat of the desert/tropics. However, the populations there have lots of other fun things to contend with.
    Posted 7/17/2013 12:05 PM (GMT 0)
    It is thought that I got Lyme from the bite of a red fire ant in the California Desert...so I don't know how heat sensitive they really are. Perhaps the spirochetes are heat sensitive, but what about the Cysts or cell-wall deficient forms??
    Posted 7/17/2013 12:45 PM (GMT 0)
    I used to run and I will return to it once I'm well. I could have sworn I saw work out and running clothes with this already on it. I will do the research. I got my first bite years ago training for a marathon in Texas. It's hot out there but that was the first bite. No symptoms...then I got the second walking with a coworker in Sept 2012. Some green bug.

    Let us know how it works for you opugirl.
    Posted 7/17/2013 3:15 PM (GMT 0)
    You can buy Permethrin and spray your clothing yourself much cheaper.

    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Permethrin
    Posted 4/13/2015 3:31 AM (GMT 0)
    I buy the permethrins and spray my own clothes, purchased from Tractor supply. Doesn't last but 5 days but I spray my shoes, socks and bottom of pant legs every time I am going to be in the grass, garden or flower beds. Can't be to careful.
    Posted 4/13/2015 11:54 AM (GMT 0)
    Hi guys...I have horrible chemical sensitivities. Perfume, cleaners, or anything scented just about wipes me out. Do you think I would have trouble using this product?
    Posted 4/13/2015 2:07 PM (GMT 0)
    Summersun-

    Just try it for $6.

    Most outdoor stores and some wallmarts have REPEL (brand bug spray) with permetherin (read the fine print). Its the gold can with the blue top.

    Spray and let dry. Use next day. Lasts several washes, not nearly as long as if you send your cloths out though(70 wahes).
    Posted 4/13/2015 5:34 PM (GMT 0)
    Hey guys- how toxic is permethrins? I know it says that it is not toxic, however, please forgive me for my ignorance- how is permethrins made? Is it made from all organic, natural ingredients found in nature or is it synthetically made in a lab? I am just very hesitatnt to spray a chemical on myself, especially all over my clothes, since the skin is the most permeable part of our body and tox overload especially from chemicals can really create havoc on our endocrine system. Although it has a great use for repelling ticks, what are the drawbacks? Do the pros of using this really outweigh the cons?
    Posted 4/13/2015 6:59 PM (GMT 0)
    Hi Dave!

    Completely up to you as far as what you use for repellant. I have yet to find one natural repellant that works in my area for ticks or mosquitoes. Permethrin has worked for me. The difference with permethrin is you are spraying more then 95% of inactive ingredient on you, unlike DEET some of which is 100% or 50/50. It also actually kills ticks, not repel them. Your skin does absorb permethrin but not much. It is metabolised by the liver so it is able to break it down.

    It is, however, a chemical and is very toxic to fish, reptiles, cold blooded things, and cats. Minimal human studies, well less then I would like anyhow... I would love to use an all natural product- I have tried more then an handful and just found this to be the best solution for me. :)

    Do your research of course! wink
    Posted 4/13/2015 7:11 PM (GMT 0)
    While I have found some natural items that work - they must be reapplied every 2 hours and if you sweat at all, the protection is no longer there.

    I fear Lyme disease more than I fear the toxins since all I have to do is detox after using the other products - but that's a personal choice we each have to make.
    Posted 4/13/2015 7:12 PM (GMT 0)
    While I have found some natural items that work - they must be reapplied every 2 hours and if you sweat at all, the protection is no longer there.

    I fear Lyme disease (and who knows what else they are carrying) more than I fear the toxins since all I have to do is detox after using the other products - but that's a personal choice we each have to make.
    Posted 4/13/2015 7:28 PM (GMT 0)
    Good point guys, that makes a lot of sense! I would hate so much to be reinfected...ugh...the thought makes me shiver. Can anyone send me a message as to where they bought permethrin?
    Posted 4/13/2015 8:36 PM (GMT 0)
    ATTENTION :

    We need to clear the air hear on bug spray. I get the hint that there might be some misunderstanding here about Permetherin.

    Regaurgless of it lower toxicity to people, its NOT for your skin. Repeat, NOT for skin. IT says so on labels.

    Permetherin is a man made chemical ingredient (insecticide) which several bug spray companies use in their tick spray to ONLY spray on your clothing.

    You spray on clothing ahead of time, let dry overnight. In its dry form it kills ticks for quit a while- several washings.

    If you want tick spray for your skin- you need something else.

    http://www.repel.com/Products-and-Solutions/Campsite/Clothing-Gear.aspx
    Posted 4/13/2015 8:54 PM (GMT 0)
    Agreed, Astroman.
    Posted 6/2/2015 12:02 PM (GMT 0)
    Where can I find this product ? I didn't find it in Walmart
    Posted 6/2/2015 12:23 PM (GMT 0)
    I'm an avid gardener and cried the first time I ventured out into the garden after dealing with Lyme.

    I then decided to treat my shoes/jacket with permethrin (that I bought on Amazon although I'm sure it's available elsewhere).

    I also bought some long-sleeved and short-sleeved tees, socks, carpenter pants and lightweight pants made with Insect Shield technology. Those can be washed 70 times before they lose effectiveness. I opted for this rather than sending my clothes to Insect Shield themselves.

    www.insectshield.com/default.aspx

    I bought some of the items directly from Insect Shield and others on Amazon.

    We opted to have our property sprayed in the fall and spring.....and I made a bunch of tick tubes per here:

    www.practicalprimitive.com/skillofthemonth/ticktubes

    The above link also explains a few things about permethrin...

    And, not only do I use dryer lint but the cotton that comes in the bottles of the gazillion supplements I take lol

    Hey Trav - care to share some of the natural items that work even if they last only 2 hours? I'd like something to use on my arms when I'm gardening and wearing short sleeves.
    Posted 6/3/2015 4:03 PM (GMT 0)
    The one that works the best for all gnats and bugs alike is sulfur! I rub the dry sulfur on my skin and as long as I don't sweat, no bugs stay long enough to ever bite - of course hubby doesn't get too close either!! LOL!

    I have also used an essential oil - but I can't find the bottle and I can't remember for sure what it was. Sorry!!!
    Posted 6/3/2015 6:49 PM (GMT 0)
    Trav, I was just looking into giving our cats the homeopathic version of sulfur. It will work differently than straight sulfur, though.
    Posted 6/3/2015 6:55 PM (GMT 0)
    Let me know how well it works, okay? Thanks!!
    Posted 6/3/2015 7:08 PM (GMT 0)
    I still need to read up on the symptoms he's having and figure out what he can't tell me. It's difficult to choose one for an animal and takes a lot of observation. I think I'll give our other cat a dose of phosphorous, since that's what brought her out of distemper when she was a kitten. If it's the right one, it will boost her immune system. Cal. carb helped out boy when we first got him. He was an oily boy and he drooled a lot, etc., so after taking that, his coat improved a lot and he quit drooling and was more active. So he may need that again.
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