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Posted 8/7/2013 9:16 AM (GMT 0)
Have any of you had issues with too much or not enough copper? What has your LLMD told you about copper?
Posted 8/7/2013 10:12 AM (GMT 0)

Hi Georgia Hunter,

Interesting that you ask this... I had an excessively high level of copper in my system: 1047,63 (normal range: 1,45 - 60,00).

I've asked my dr about it, he said it's all linked, but didn't give any details...

Curious about it...

MarieLS

Posted 8/7/2013 1:18 PM (GMT 0)
Zinc and Molybdenum are needed to get rid of excess copper.

Also, be careful - excess copper without supplementing Zinc & Molybdenum can cause some enzymes needed for processing sulfur to stop functioning correctly (I know someone who got copper poisoning and then developed sulfur intolerance).
Posted 8/8/2013 11:20 AM (GMT 0)
I'm trying to put together the cascade of events that are causing many of our troubles. The pathogens are just part of these events and I have hypothesized that they are utilizing our intracellular Mg, Mn, Mo, Zn, and other divalent cations and causing deficiencies. These cytoplasmic cations are usually bound to polyamines which in turn bind to DNA. If they are deficient, polyamine formation and transport is altered. I've focused mainly on Putrescine but Spermidine and Spermine would be affected also.

Copper and Iron levels are often altered in patients with VBD. Why? Is it that an altered gut flora can no longer produce Diamine Oxidase and that allows copper to accumulate since it isn't bound? Histame would help in this scenerio but what is that the real cause? What comes first, the polyamine problem or the dysbiosis?
Posted 8/8/2013 3:06 PM (GMT 0)
I definitely think you are on to something. I am interested in these relationships.

 I have been tested for metal toxicity and found that my iron and mercury level are in the moderate range. I have needed B-12 shots ever since I was bit -2007. I also needed supplementation for D3.

I have tested positive for the MTHER gene homogenous for the 1638 gene.

When I was bit I was under extreme stress.

 I also had to repeat the MMR vaccine because I did not have enough money to tested for the titers and my job insisted.

I feel like all of these things played a role, I was hit hard from the infection it seemed to quickly move to my brain within a couple months.

I also tested positive for CMV, EB, Parvo, Herpes 1,2,3,4,6 for Fifth's disease and a couple more I can't remember right now. I don't recall ever being ill from any of these.

I had the EM rash which why I was lucky enough to get the 2 weeks of doxy BUT IT DIDN"T WORK FOR ME!

Actually I would like to hear from anybody that was healed by short-term, oral antibiotics. I have searched lots of blogs and websites and research studies and I really haven't found anybody ?

Sorry, don't mean to rant but I really want to find some answers.

Thanks for you for posting this information, it is appreciated!

Anna

Posted 4/24/2015 6:44 PM (GMT 0)
Old post, but interesting.

I too had high copper 2 years ago. I want to test copper serum and 24 hr urine copper again, both are important, as the can be opposite. Dr Willsons copper site explains some of this. Eccess copper gets bound to the liver-not good.

I take moly now, so levels could be normal, I'll find out.
Posted 4/24/2015 10:53 PM (GMT 0)
Copper supplementation for me has been good and bad. Was my body deficient, yes I believe it was. I have responded very nicely since I started taking it. On the downside, it has boosted my immune response. I have ganglion cysts coming back in two places and my joints hurt from all the inflammation. I'm actively killing protozoans and my body is suffering because of it. I'm getting close to my oxidative stress limit and that has been my Achilles heel in the past. It's like treating a dog for heart worms, the treatment is tough and if the dog survives, you were successful. There's a point at which I have to stop treating because I just can't handle the oxidative stress.
Posted 4/25/2015 10:00 PM (GMT 0)
For anyone out there - Before supplementing copper, its probably wise to get levels tested. Copper can be toxic, it can kill your liver. Many have high levels and did not know this. A high copper environment is also prefered by Candida yeast and fungi.
Posted 4/26/2015 8:47 AM (GMT 0)

astroman said...
For anyone out there - Before supplementing copper, its probably wise to get levels tested. Copper can be toxic, it can kill your liver. Many have high levels and did not know this. A high copper environment is also prefered by Candida yeast and fungi.

Definitely get it checked before supplementing.
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