FOR TRAVELER- Chronic Tonic

Traveler,

I am considering making the chronic tonic. How has this helped you?

And how do you make this - what is decoction?

Thanks,
Sally

Thanks for your input. I am doing fairly well at this point, but I like to always do something to continue the healing process. I think once this becomes chronic, we need a lifetime of support at some level.

So glad to hear that you have no symptoms! That is great and so encouraging for everyone battling lyme and co-infections.

This may be a dumb question but were the herbs in the tea from a tincture form, capsules etc.? Thanks!

Any suggestions on where to buy the herbs?

Akkami said...
Any suggestions on where to buy the herbs?

Hi Akkami,
Although I got all of my herbs from my practitioner when I was using this formula, I'm a bit paranoid of getting reinfected, sooo I sat down in front of my rusty trusty computer and located all the herbs from places that any consumer can order from. I found all the herbs in the forms I needed (whole, cut herbs) I needed to make this by using two sites. These herbs can be found on other sites as well (and maybe less expensive even), I just wanted to only order from as few sites as possible when I needed to.

From 1st Chinese Herbs:
Japanese Knotweed
Echinacea
Eleuthero
Red Root
Artemisia Annua
Cat's Claw
Teasel
Neem leaf

From Frontier Herbs:
St. Johnswort
Thyme
Oregano

Bump fo randy...are you doing anything for bart ...bart is the one messing with the lower motor neurons !

Psilociraptor, I feel that's a very legitimate question - no worries!!

Based on my own experience, I can only suspect permanent damage and that's to the nerves in the gut - but I know that nerves can take up to 7 years to regenerate, so I can't be sure. I had healed every other symptom and had been without them for 2 full years, but my gut remained an issue. All other symptoms were gone though....then the unthinkable happened.

I was under a TON of stress - my FIL was diagnosed as in the end stages of Alzheimers and was about to be moved into a nursing home - his worst fear. I was healed, and hubby was stable again after being disabled, so I talked him into bringing his father to live with us. We didn't quite realize what this was to entail, but we were committed - and I would do it all over again for his Dad - but the stress levels were crazy high during the short time (3 months) that his father had left. My mother had a fight during this time with my brother, and before the funeral for my FIL was even over with, she was on the road moving over here with us. Did I say there was a bit of stress??? LOL!

Within a year of my mom moving over, my adrenals crashed, taking my thyroid with it. I went without treatment (couldn't find a doctor) for just over a year, and by that time, my adrenals were so poor, that the doc I finally got in to see told me that I was one step from having developed Addison's, by her experience. I was in treatment for my adrenals and thyroid, but one day - while in town grocery shopping!!!! Ugh! - I picked up a tick that chose to have it's next meal - on me. Within 3 months, I had full blown symptoms of Lyme all over again, and entered back into treatments yet again.

I still have yet to recover from those adrenal and thyroid issues - and I'm still battling what I believe is Bart and likely Babs, but might have successfully treated Lyme yet again. Fingers crossed.

Right now, I'm hedging my bets on recovering from Lyme a second time, because I'm under a ton of stress yet again, with hubby having just had knee replacement surgery and it ramping up all of his other conditions due to the stress of the surgery. Praying that I haven't relapsed and I'm just overwhelmed with Bart and adrenal and thyroid symptoms - but only time will tell.

Right. Full remission of most all symptoms for 2 years.

My gut is pretty messed up too. I have severe chronic constipation, intestinal cramping (unless I use 3 herbs on a daily basis), slowed digestion, low stomach acid, lowered absorption of nutrients and who knows what else. LOL. I do address each of these things as best as I can in order to help myself heal the infections, but I'm still working on finding what may help my gut issues, other than the herbs that stop the intestinal cramping. Thankfully those work, as it used to keep me house bound and VERY miserable.

I would encourage you to find and use a preventative for Lyme. There are several out there that claim to be effective. Unfortunately the only way to know is to use them and wait and see.

I can say that I've chosen to use astragalus as my preventative, and for as long as I've been using it (2 years more or less), I've not had any Lyme symptoms return (indicating a reinfection), even though I've had a handful of ticks attach during that time. It's an herb that can be used during the initial infection process as well, so any time I found a tick attached, I would raise my dose to 'treatment levels' instead of prevention levels and have been pleased with the results so far.

Let us know what you choose to use and how it works! We (well, me, lol!) are always looking for tings that work well to prevent these infections!!

Randy that nerve damage imo..last febuary when i went hot tubbing in the cold mountains what should have felt like cold was burning sensation. It may be from lack of blood but its not a good sign .i feel its like a telephone line that is frayed just cant communicate . There is no herb in the chronic tonic say for oregano that would touch bart ...please consider houttnia like trav or oil of oregano caps up to 4 if you can handle it ...i just know that when i was fighting to stay walking there was days where i thought treatment would kill me but it was killing bugs ...i just hope you are doing enough to fight the diagnosis of your nerve damage ...imo i would get up to full dose asap and add anti myco bart asap and dont look back ..just zmas worries there are only a few of us with lyme that are in the boat of muscle wasting which means we have let the infections reach critical and they are irreversable doing nerve damage! Not on my watch...and its good to hear nerves can remylinate at 1nm aweek =7 years ..yay... there is the build game too...lions mane ,biotin ,efa ,cod liver ,ghee,efa ,black seed @nd flax and royal jelly all in insane doses

And there is no way I could go full dose it would kil me at this point. Hell babesia is fighting me pretty good.

Granted I know there are a million sub species of artmisia I have reason to believe annua is hitting Bart because sudden increase in symptoms. But it's pounding the babs even at negligable doses.

Nope can't do regular testing. Yes iron and all test were normal when I had several massive blood panels done a few months back.
Although I did notice my red blood cell size has increased and gone down over the last few yrs. Which implies passengers.