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Posted 2/22/2014 9:46 PM (GMT 0)
HI -- I am new here....I was reading for awhile before joining.

I think I am dealing with bartonella and parasites. 7 yrs sick, 4+ yrs of tx with IV, orals, Rife, herbs, ozone. Very little progress. Symptoms most neuro.

I read that Traveler eliminated bart with houttynia tea. I got my TCM to order the cut herbal tea leaves, but other than reducing edema (yay!) I am not seeing a lot of results...or perhaps I am in a perma-herx and can't tell (encephalopathy, mood/cognitive/severe CNS irritation). Have others had luck with houttynia tea? I have been drinking it about 1.5 weeks.

Thanks!
Posted 2/22/2014 11:10 PM (GMT 0)
Well, I herxed quite a bit for the first 3 weeks, so you're about 1/2 way through what I experienced. My symptoms didn't really ease up for 6 - 8 weeks after the herxing stopped.

I was looking over a few of your previous posts and noticed all the troubles you have been having - have you been checked for mold? That seems to be something that all too many Lyme patients have to deal with - a body that can't detox mold on it's own.
Posted 2/22/2014 11:58 PM (GMT 0)
I'm putting just one leaf of houttuynia in my tea every night.

Also, what's the best herbal tea for Babesia?

Margaret
Posted 2/23/2014 2:24 AM (GMT 0)
Hi tera,

Houttuyunia will actually be partially effect for babesia as well. I'm not sure if there is a specific tea (none that I know of) for babesia. Maybe someone else knows.
Posted 2/23/2014 5:01 PM (GMT 0)
Hi Traveler! thanks for your response, and others too. I read all your notes and you are what insprired me to try the tea from the cut leaves. I had tried dried powder from another vendor which did absolutely nothing, and then Dr Z HH2 capsule which knocked me to the floor.....so was trying to find a happy medium. What has become apparent to me is that there is a LOT of variety in the quality and power/properties of the various herbs available.

Has anyone else who has worked with herbs noticed this?

Also, Trav, why did your pracititioner want you to get the cut leaf herb....does it have the most antimicrobial powder ? Also I thought it interesting that she/he wanted you to discard it after the 10 minute steep.
Posted 2/23/2014 6:27 PM (GMT 0)
Whew! I'm glad I inspired you to do something positive!! turn Giggle!

I'm not real sure why she wanted me to use the cut leaf instead of the powders - other than she didn't have me use any powders really. She believed in the 'whole herb' being used mostly. She's moved out of state, so I can't even ask her!

I've noticed that many people react differently on the different "forms" of Houttuynia as well and thought it odd. Some differences can be expected, but nothing like what I've seen over the years, which is why I choose to always clarify what type I used.

As for discarding the herb after only 10 minutes of steeping, she told me that it would be much too strong if it went any longer is all I know. After having herxed like I did for 3 straight weeks when starting it, I believed her, since it kicked my rear!!! LOL!

As for your observations in the variety in the quality and power/properties of the various herbs, I would agree as well. That's why it's best to stick with those companies that have a good reputation and/or you've had good success with. On Buhner's site, he gives herb company recommendations and you can always ask here for personal recommendations from the members to get you started if you need.
Posted 2/23/2014 11:39 PM (GMT 0)
Traveler, what happened with your herx.....did you get an increase in bone pain? that's what is happening to me, among other things...
Posted 2/25/2014 12:02 AM (GMT 0)
Oh my!! shakehead I thought if a person could die from pain alone, I surely would!! My pain levels went through the roof! - although I did have quite a few other symptoms increase too, the pain was the hardest to deal with. I had to stay off my feet for the most part. Poor hubby was beginning to wonder if the herb was a good thing or not!!

Soaking in warm water really helped me deal with some of it, but I was ready for heavy duty pain killers and was about to give in, then it all started easing up. I couldn't use the full bath detoxes because it made me herx even more, so I stuck with using just warm water to soak in.

For me it was three weeks before I quit herxing.
Posted 2/26/2014 12:50 AM (GMT 0)
Oh wow, thanks Traveler!

Maybe that's what is happening....the pain is pretty crazy. I'd be delighted if that meant it was working though....I think I read through your posts and it took 6-8 weeks to ease up? I can deal with 3....
Posted 2/26/2014 1:33 AM (GMT 0)
If I remember right, I think by 8 weeks I was feeling like a new person! LOL! Just don't let the herxing get too bad.

Best of luck! I know that the Houttuynia took care of my Bartonella infection - I hope that you have the same success!!
Posted 2/26/2014 3:04 AM (GMT 0)
When I was herxing from bart I did a shake that someone recommended to me on here. It was a handful of parsley, a handful of cilantro, 1/2 a lemon (including skin), and a cucumber - throw it all in a blender and chug...it tastes dissssgusting. But it worked for me!
Posted 2/26/2014 3:43 PM (GMT 0)
LOL! I would think so, Opugirl! But it if works, it works!

Please remember SuperLuke that if you do also have a Lyme infection, you may have some improvements but you won't heal from these other things until it's treated as well.
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