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Posted 3/2/2014 2:34 AM (GMT 0)
Has anyone out there never experienced a herx on antibiotics, but still improved on them? I've taken a variety of treatments (doxycycline, rifampin, minocycline, and some herbs) but I've never felt worse on anything. No "run over by a truck feeling", or flu feelings. Can this be normal with lyme disease? My main symptom is pain, and its always better in the morning, worse in the evening. I get other symptoms too, but they have mostly cleared up. I even had a lot clear up before I started treatment. This just sounds totally backwards compared to everything I read online!
Posted 3/2/2014 2:11 PM (GMT 0)
I'm taking a lot of things too including three medications and haven't had a herx yet since 5 weeks of treatment. I can't understand either as some of the things I'm taking have given some people herxing from the single supplement alone.
Posted 3/4/2014 10:33 AM (GMT 0)
Do you guys have positive blood tests or clinical diagnosis?
Posted 3/4/2014 1:34 PM (GMT 0)
Not me - I've only had lyme for 4 months and I herxed the third day after I started treatment.
Posted 3/4/2014 2:07 PM (GMT 0)
Drew,

I never herx either. My symptoms either just remain or go away. Even after switching from doxy to Zithromax and Ceftin last month, I was thinking "I will definitely herx on these antibiotics" and nope nothing. I just started feeling WAY better on them.

I am IgeneX positive.
Posted 3/4/2014 10:12 PM (GMT 0)
Herxing only happens when the body gets "backed up" with toxins. So, if your body is detoxing well enough to keep up with the toxins that are not only already in your body, but the toxins being created as these treatments kill off more bacteria, then you are in the minority -especially if you have chronic infections. But.... that's something to celebrate!!! Believe me!!

Keep up the good work!!
Posted 3/4/2014 11:52 PM (GMT 0)
Hey traveler got a question for you. In Dr. Jernigan's book he says Lyme toxins are the primary cause of Lyme symptoms. If people aren't herxing (meaning we have good detox ability), then how are we sick from Lyme? If we're not herxing then I'm thinking there are no toxins floating around. And if there's no toxins, then we shouldn't have symptoms.
Posted 3/5/2014 7:44 PM (GMT 0)
Herxing is an overload of toxins, not just the presence of them. The toxins cause our symptoms, but if we have an overload of them so that the body is really struggling to keep up with the detoxing needs - that's when we herx. The more trouble your body has with detoxing, the quicker a person will herx and the more serious the herx will be.

My herx was severe enough to include 3 day migraines regularly, seizures for a week and an array of other lovely things. Got my attention!! I stopped treatment and started doing all I could to lower my toxin loads - I was suddenly a believer in the need for detoxing and detoxing well. It took almost 2 years to find a doc that would accept me as a patient after I stopped seeing the one LLMD that I saw in '07. I still did another 6 months of detoxing before my body was at a point to handle the influx of toxins that would be coming when I started the herbal treatments.

Clear as mud yet? smilewinkgrin
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