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Posted 8/14/2014 3:25 AM (GMT 0)
So sorry to hear this Traveler! I feel bad for you...but you'll be okay.

I bet it's a reinfection - and you'll heal quickly second time around!

Hugs to you from Canada!
Posted 8/14/2014 3:56 AM (GMT 0)
So sorry about that Traveler —

If there is a silver lining in all this crap… may it be that we are smarter than the microbes and we can—and will eventually win.

-p
Posted 8/14/2014 4:36 AM (GMT 0)
Traveller you have a great attitude towards fighting Lyme! You have such a good positive optimistic outlook on over coming this disease!
Posted 8/14/2014 5:05 AM (GMT 0)
Hi Traveler--So sorry to hear you are not well but you know the way back to better health and are a Lyme warrior!

You will be in all of our thoughts & prayers. SueG
Posted 8/14/2014 12:26 PM (GMT 0)
Oh golly Traveler!!

I'm so sorry to hear this yet I know you will heal again. You are one smart lady who is armed with so much knowledge that before you know it, you will be feeling good again!

Big Hugs to you,
Denise
Posted 8/14/2014 2:06 PM (GMT 0)
Oh gosh!! I'm near tears now! Thank you all for all of your wonderful thoughts, prayers and well wishes!!! I knew I needed my family again!! Thank you so very much!!

You all are a part of my support system - always have been while fighting these nasty infections! I wish I could hug you all!!!

Mister Mike said...
Oh Trav, I am so very sorry to hear this! Like everyone else has said, you'll kick its ass! (well, maybe they didn't say those exact words...)

What are the ingredients to your Chronic Tonic?

LOL! yes!! I will!! wink

To be honest, I don't know of others who have used the Chronic Tonic to heal, other than the ones listed in the pdf listed below - but it sure beat the heck out of my Lyme Disease!!

Here is the list of ingredients for the Chronic Tonic that helped me heal the first time around -although my practitioner had me use the herbs in the same amounts as listed on the website, she changed how I was to make it. You can find the original 'recipe' on page 77 in the link below:

Japanese Knotweed
Echinacea
Eleuthreo
Red Root
Artemisia Annua
Cat's Claw
Teasel
Neem leaf

www.mistymeadows.org/wendydocs/Lyme Disease.pdf
Posted 8/14/2014 7:17 PM (GMT 0)
As I said in my post - my practitioner had me make the tea differently - no alcohol. Just take 13 grams of the dried, mixed herbs, add to 4 cups of boiling water and allow to steep for 20 minutes. Strain and drink 1 cup, 4 times a day.

I used poke root extract, but the extract I used -made by my practitioner- was quite strong. I could only use6 drops a day total - but it worked wonders for my lymphs!! It was the only thing that made any real difference.

I haven't read Buhner's books yet - which one did he say to use Poke weed for lymph drainage?
Posted 8/15/2014 10:28 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks, Mister Mike. I would do a little shopping around for these herbs - prices differ and there are sales on some sites.

I know that 1st Chinese Herbs sells Japanese Knotweed (also known as Hu Zhang):
www.1stchineseherbs.com/hu_zhang.html
Posted 8/15/2014 10:51 PM (GMT 0)
Oops! I was busy posting so I didn't see your second post above about the amounts.

According to the recipe - which can be found here, on page 77:
www.mistymeadows.org/wendydocs/Lyme Disease.pdf

4 ounces* Cats claw
2 ounces* Echinacea
2 ounces* Red root
2 ounces* Teasel
2 ounces* Eleuthero
2 ounces* Japanese Knotweed
1 ounce* St. Johnswort
1 ounce* Sweet Annie (Artemisia Annua)
1/2 ounce* Neem leaf
1/4 ounce* Oregano
1/4 ounce* Thyme

*= I changed the recipe from saying "parts" to "ounces" to help everyone - especially those with brain fog - understand easier.

13 grams of the above mixed herbs to 4 cups of boiling water. Do not boil the herbs Allow to steep for 20 minutes - strain and drink 1 cup, 4 times a day.

I have just restarted this treatment myself due to being reinfected. I started out with 1/2 the recipe (only 2 cups per day) for 2 days, and now am at 3 cups per day to help ease any possible herxing. I'm glad I did it this way too.
Posted 8/15/2014 10:58 PM (GMT 0)
I am so sorry, I hope you recover and I'll keep you in my prayers.
Posted 8/15/2014 11:01 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you, PrayingForAMiracle!!! I'm sure I will. I hope that you see some real progress as well.
Posted 8/15/2014 11:52 PM (GMT 0)
Traveler - I am so incredibly sorry to hear this! We are all here for you, as you have been for us - keep up the positive attitude and you will beat this darn bug in no time!!!

**HUG*****

- Kathleen
Posted 8/16/2014 4:25 AM (GMT 0)
So sorry to read that you've gotten reinfected. But I know you'll conquer it again this time, too. And hopefully much more quickly!

Take care,
Posted 8/16/2014 4:29 PM (GMT 0)

Mister Mike said...
Thanks Trav - so to be clear, you mix up all of the ounces of the various herbs and then you take 13 grams (which i calculate as 1/2 ounce?) to 4 cups of boiling water.

Yes. Mix all the herbs together, then take 13 grams of the mixed herbs and add to 4 cups of 'just boiled' water - do not boil the herbs as this changes things. I messed up and boiled them one day and my doc at the time told me to toss it all and start with a fresh batch to make more.

Steep for 20 minutes - no longer. Strain and drink. I think I like the e-hem- 'flavor' better when it's warm!! It's a strange taste, but tolerable. Especially since I know that it's battling my Lyme infection for me!!

According to my calculations, 13 grams is just under 1/2 ounce - it's actually .458 ounces, so it should be close enough. I started off with only taking 2 cups a day of this prepared recipe to avoid any possible herxing, but am quickly working up to the full dose of 4 cups a day of prepared medicinal tea.
Posted 8/16/2014 4:30 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you for your kind words, Razzle and Chapelle!!

I'm confident that with all the support and help on this forum that I will be healed again in no time as well!! :-)
Posted 8/16/2014 5:55 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for sharing the misty meadows link! I haven't seen that one before and read it last night...

I think I need to stop these antibiotics and go the herbal route now. The chronic tonic sounds like something I could go for.
Posted 8/16/2014 8:48 PM (GMT 0)
Like I said, I don't know of others that have healed using this medicinal tea other than myself - but not many that I know have tried using it either.

It took a full year on this medicinal tea the first time around - but I had been infected and untreated for a minimum of 38 years (signs of Lyme arthritis- late stage symptom- at the age of 9, first successful treatment started at age 47). Since I've shown symptoms, I'm assuming at least 4 months, if not 6 just to be sure.

This time around is already quite interesting for me, as I was free of these symptoms and now I'm able to watch them progress & change. I've started my 2nd round of treatment on last Thursday (8/14/14). It will be quite interesting to see how long this takes, how well I do and if I have the same issues detoxing now that I know that I have Addison's, hypothyroid & intestinal food allergies - although I am on meds for Addison's and hypothyroid issues.
Posted 8/17/2014 1:41 AM (GMT 0)
Hugs, Trav! You are so wise, and you have a bunch of toolboxes chock full of tips and tricks! You are going to feel better soon :)

I understand how you feel - I was devastated when I experienced reactivation. It's a journey. We are here for you!! xoxo
Posted 8/17/2014 1:44 AM (GMT 0)
Ditto what the others have said. You are an inspiration to all of us and I wish you a speedy remission!
Posted 8/17/2014 1:59 AM (GMT 0)
Taveler - I am so sorry you have to go through this again! Wishing you a very speedy recovery. You are an inspiration to all of us. Thinking of you and praying for you. Big hugs.
Posted 8/17/2014 12:12 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you so much for your kind words, Bluebyyou, Flowergal and Summersun!! blush

I'm sure that I'll be just fine with a support group like this one!!! :-) You all are just wonderful!

I pray that we all heal well.

Thank you...
Posted 8/17/2014 8:25 PM (GMT 0)
Trav.,

We're all being your personal cheerleaders.

If the tonic worked for you this time, I bet it will next time too!!

I'm actually considering dumping Cowden and using the chronic tonic as well (possibly your version, since you have the same co infections as I do), and certainly using the same preparation method.

I might look up the herbs for my dog too.

Not sure how to give her tea though; kind of a LOL.

Margaret
Posted 8/17/2014 8:33 PM (GMT 0)
PS,

What's the advantage to using your practitioner's method vs. Wendy's method? Just wondering.

Also, is there a reason you're not using some of the other ingredients in Wendy's tonic, like Oregano?

Enjoy your day!!!

Drink that lemon water!!!

M
Posted 8/18/2014 6:32 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks Margaret!

I omitted the Oregano accidentally when I mentioned the herbs the first time, but when I gave the amounts, oregano was included.

As for the preparation - I'm not really sure why my practitioner had me change the preparation of the chronic tonic. I do know that the way she had me change it means I'm not using alcohol though! And that it's pretty fast to do.

Good news too - I'm already seeing symptom improvements!!! WOO HOOO!!! turn Happy dance time!!! yeah And I was able to verify that my foot pain is from Neuro Lyme and not Bart!!! turn Even better!! yeah

Most definitely drinking my lemon water! I've missed it while I was on the elimination diet!! smilewinkgrin
Posted 8/18/2014 6:40 PM (GMT 0)
Wow, that's great! No herx? Sophie and I arestill sticking to Samento for now, though no Banderol for Sophie. I'm herxing a lot, with headaches, and she is herxing as well.
That is amazing news on your part; I am sooo happy for you!!!!! Let us know about your progress!
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