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Posted 11/30/2014 5:00 AM (GMT 0)
about a week and a half ago I obtained some milk kefir grains. I have been making milk kefir ever since. A few days soon after I noticed that I began to herx. Nothing has changed in my routine. As a matter of fact, this feels like I feel when I start a new prescription; the headaches, the dizziness, the fatigue, the muscle twitching, the brain fog and the chills.

So, the only thing that I can think of is the kefir. I am only taking an ounce of it once a day, which I think is very little. The first day I took it, I drank a few ounces and I had stomach cramps and an achy stomach for a few days so I am going slowly with it.

Do you think that it may be possible that it could be it? I didn't feel like this when I started the probiotics, which are 50 billion and over ten strains of bacteria and yeast. Can it be that this milk is stronger than that?

Something else that I was thinking is that I am on Rifampin and amoxicillin. I have felt that it (Rifampin) has been losing its effectiveness on my infection slowly for the last few months. Can it be that repairing my gut is making my abx more effective or that it is making the bacteria more vulnerable?

Has anyone had a similar reaction?
Posted 11/30/2014 5:05 AM (GMT 0)
Very doubtful that it will make you herx, but you may be allergic to milk.

If you made it yourself, you need to be careful. I try to buy premade Kefir when I can, because I got really sick from homemade Kombucha. If one more of my friends raves about Kombucha, I'm going to punch her (no, I'm seriously kidding)! But the homemade Kombucha, and also homemade coconut-milk kefir both gave me diarrhea.

Goat milk is easier on the digestive system, so you might try goat-milk kefir. Also, I only take a tsp. of it a day, a tbsp. at the most.

Make absolutely certain that you are separating the kefir from your abx by two hours before or after, otherwise they might cancel each other out.

Margaret

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Posted 11/30/2014 10:29 PM (GMT 0)
Some say fermented food can make fungal worse. Although its got the good bacteria, mayb its fungal overgrowth.
Posted 11/30/2014 10:35 PM (GMT 0)
I would do some investigation. Try a different non-dairy kefir (use coconut water in lieu of milk—that's what I used for awhile and loved it). If removing dairy doesn't help, I'd think that maybe the kefir is overwhelming you at this point. Maybe just leave it out for awhile. I stopped all kefir while I"m on abx and antifungals… I am soooo sensitive to yeast and fungal issues I just need to simplify things.

But when I get better… I'm gonna jump into a big vat of it. ;)

-p
Posted 11/30/2014 11:11 PM (GMT 0)
I drank 8 oz. of homemade kefir about 1 1/2 weeks ago and within a few minutes of drinking it I got extremely nauseous and felt terrible. I thought I was doing a good thing, loading up on the good bacteria. After my reaction, I did some research and learned that homemade kefir not only has tons of good bacteria, but it also has yeast. I wish I would have done my research before I drank it. I am extremely sensitive to yeast/candida. Needless to say, I'm going to stick with probiotics in capsule form since I do okay with them.
Posted Yesterday 3:35 AM (GMT 0)
I drink both homemade kefir and kombucha ( sorry Margaret :)) and eat plenty of fermented veggies and I never have a problem. I was told you can herx from them so I started slow. You are adding in good bacteria and it's killing off the bad bacteria so you can herx if you don't take it slow but like others said it could be the yeast your sensitive to or the dairy.
Posted Yesterday 4:34 AM (GMT 0)
Did u make it yourself? If so mayb batch got contaminated ( that was the 1st and last i ate fermented food)
Posted Yesterday 3:40 PM (GMT 0)
Thank you for your comments. The kefir is something that I made myself. I have so many new symptoms happening now that I don't even know what is what.

I was taking it at night along about an hour before my antibiotics. There may be some truth to the idea that maybe the kefir was interfering with the antibiotics since it feels as if I wasn't on any medicine.

I have stopped taking it to see how it goes. I just hate to throw it away after they (good bacteria)worked so hard all day to make it for me.
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