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Posted 1/3/2015 1:30 AM (GMT 0)
Geez, today I did something that I haven't done in like over a year! I ate a sugar cookie... It was those white ones with the macadamia nuts and white chocolate chips. Anyways it tasted really good.

But jeez what a reaction I got out of it! Brain tingles, dizziness, a strange feeling it was, almost like mildly being on drugs. That feeling lasted for about 15 minutes about 15 minutes after eating it. I think it lured the lyme out to come and feed.

Anyways it was a good yummy cookie and I really enjoyed it at least.
Posted 1/3/2015 1:36 AM (GMT 0)
Lymepickle - I used to love baking, chocolate bars...etc. People at work would bug me because I would eat so much - cookies, cake, chocolate bars...but was a healthy weight.

So, since Lyme diagnosis...I have cut out gluten and sugar...but cheating now and then.
But, lately, when I cheat and have a couple chocolates...it doesn't taste as good as it used to...and I don't feel well. I guess my body has gotten accustomed to not having it...that it is rejecting it?

Glad you enjoyed your cookie....but sorry you had the brain reaction.
Posted 1/3/2015 1:45 AM (GMT 0)
Girlie, it has something to do with the sugar... I think it feeds the bacteria. It happened to me like that too but much more severe when I first got sick ... I ate some cake! I was like whoa Better not eat that again, and I didn't.

I just saw one today on a tray at work and decided to help myself. I guess I just wanted to do an experiment to see what would happen. And it was my favourite kind of cookie so I had one. Normally my diet is pretty much 0 gluten, dairy, or sugar though.
Posted 1/3/2015 12:49 PM (GMT 0)
This is interesting - Because I have cheated on and off for months and nothing really ever happened. I had a ton of Christmas cookies! LOL
Posted 1/3/2015 1:30 PM (GMT 0)
Chapelle, maybe lyme really didn't get into your brain then? Lucky you! Maybe you have a special blood brain barrier that blocks spirochetes? But I also heard reports of people using this as a "Bartonella done test". So I mean maybe it is bart... Or maybe it is mycoplasma? It is something that respond to sugar fast though. Ugh some bacteria got into my brain.
Posted 1/3/2015 1:54 PM (GMT 0)
LP

Sorry to hear about your reaction! blech

Well, if indeed the sugar lured the lyme out to feed, maybe they got zapped with the abx you're taking.

Ahhh...wouldn't that be wonderful - we could eat whatever we want if that really worked lol Yeah, yeah, I know sugar causes inflammation and all that but, dang ;)

I'd cheated with some chocolate a couple of months ago and just had an overall feeling of yuck.

And, while I was such a good girl at first with not eating the 10 different kinds of Christmas cookies I baked, I found myself succumbing to temptation on Christmas Eve....and then Christmas Day....and a couple of times after that :( I didn't feel like I did when I ate the chocolate for whatever reason and there is chocolate in a few of the recipes.

On Christmas I received my usual email from LabCorp to notify me about my latest-greatest thyroid labs being available on their patient portal. Turns out my thyroid had gone low (which historically brings on sugar cravings).

Now that I'm about 10 days into the MUCH needed T3 dose increase, the cravings have subsided.

I am guilty of occasionally munching on organic popcorn and did so again last night. After a day with only 1-2 VERY occasional and almost undetectable symptoms yesterday, I had an increase in the buzzing and poking sensations that seem to be prevalent these days along with a muscle twitch.

Now, the evening is usually when my symptoms are more prevalent anyway so who knows?

Oh well....back to the Lyme grind - right? ;)
Posted 1/3/2015 2:34 PM (GMT 0)
Cd, yup they got zapped! Actually I had a mildly intense herx today! Maybe in my protocol I need to include 1 sugar cookie the day I take my antibiotics and take the cookie a few hours before?

Nah but to be honest the sugar cookie was just me checking the status on Lyme and was an experiment to see my bodies reaction. I am pretty much completely paleo... And going to start juicing soon too. Probably putting herbs in my smoothie in the morning.

It's strange... I was always concerned about jeez I should do this and that to prevent Alzheimer's. And I would watch Dr.Oz and some episodes he would have a special on preventing Alzheimer's, because we all can pretty much agree it is about prevention more than anything else. But it is weird, one episode suggested it was related to heavy metals and to keep our meat consumpton down, and then another episode suggested it was related to sugar consumption and to keep our sugar consumption down. I think the missing link is bacteria that sometimes infect the brain. When combining bacteria and high sugar that suppresses the immune system and feeds the bugs it makes more sense.
Posted 1/4/2015 12:42 PM (GMT 0)
I don't know why I don't seem to react at all, I don't know if it has anything to do with the brain -

is it possible that your body just isn't used to it? That your body is still inflamed from lyme and the sugar just made it worse?
Posted 1/4/2015 3:18 PM (GMT 0)
Chapelle, it's definitely the bugs. Sugar feeds them and revs up their metabolism causing them to either release toxins or move around. Sugar didn't feel like that to me before lyme.

Also it is a possibility it is Bart, maybe my Bart isn't fully treated.
Posted 1/4/2015 3:29 PM (GMT 0)
wow, well, maybe I don't feel it like you - but I was sure not doing myself a favor by eating all of those cookies, LOL> trying to cheat less now that it is the new year and the holidays are over!
Posted 1/4/2015 3:45 PM (GMT 0)
I can be sugar free for weeks and then cheat badly one day, and I notice no worsening in symptoms. I wonder why? Going sugar free has not improved any of my symptoms. Bummer!
Posted 1/4/2015 5:05 PM (GMT 0)
Utahgal

I know I've said this before....it's a recurring theme in my research that some people don't herx or they're able to detox enough to prevent many herxes.

I've also read on PubMed that minocycline is an anti-inflammatory and immunodulator to the extent that taking it can minimize herxes.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15617845

According to that link, you're on a very effective meds regimen right now. You just might start to feel *some*thing very soon.

Ummmm...going sugar-free did nothing for my symptoms, either.... but the decision to do so just makes sense.
Posted 1/4/2015 7:36 PM (GMT 0)
Ya Utah Gal... I think mino and tind are the best 2 drugs for Neuro lyme. Mino is actually unique, it is actually being studied to treat psychiatric symptoms by psychiatrists. Who knows maybe it's just treating brain infections! lol. But Ya lots of anti inflammatory action with it. I take mine on an empty stomach and it is absorbed well that way.

My next suggestion for you is clarithromycin. Because even though my Neuro symptoms went down I took that and I had a tissues herx. Just as a suggestion you might want to ask about implementing that into your protocol. Mino and clarithro also work against bart.

You know what? I was on mino and rifampin at first, and then my LLMD changed me to mino, Septra DS, and Tinidazole. I asked if I could stay on the rifampin and do minocycline, tind, and rifampin. And... He said no he won't do that! He said if you combine rifampin and tinidaZole together it revs up liver enzymes too much and could cause liver damage. Just something he told me so maybe keep that in mind. You are after all taking 300 mg of rifampin and not 600... And taking the tini 3 days a week I think I read? So you might be okay but I thought I would just mention what he told me.
Posted 4/4/2015 3:49 PM (GMT 0)
I too have Nero Lyme. On bicillin injections and tind and doxy. Bicillin for three months and my booty would like a break. Interesting you mention the mino. Never done that. Should I substitute it?
Posted 4/4/2015 5:55 PM (GMT 0)
I'm not sure the cookie and sugar would make the bugs come out and feed. For one, your blood always has sugar (blood sugar), if the bacteria wanted it they wouldn't wait until The blood sugar was high.

It was probably the fact the you haven't had a blood sugar spike like that in a while, you reacted to it. Plus you were paying a attention very closely. Just my opinion.
Posted 4/4/2015 6:24 PM (GMT 0)
I can definitely tell a difference in symptoms when I eat sugar, not all sugar but say Dunkin Donuts, the chocolate coconut one makes me hurt so bad after. But then I can have ice cream with raspberries on it and I don't get the bad feeling.

LP I didn't know rifampin and Tindimax together increase liver enzymes, I just took Tindi for 2 days. Wish Chapelle would give her professional opinion. I hate all these powerful anx, I'm ready to try travelers chronic tonic, going to order stuff today. Did you ever think about doing it since it helped her?
Posted 4/4/2015 6:58 PM (GMT 0)
Revive - I know the tinidazole increased my ALT enzymes...and my LLND said Rifampin is also hard on the liver...so probably the both together is a lot for the liver to handle.

Make sure you monitor your liver enzymes monthly and keep an eye on it. I'm afraid to find out if mine have cimbed again...
Posted 4/4/2015 7:01 PM (GMT 0)
lol....I was thinking when I read this that I remember LP eating a cookie a while ago...and now he's having another one...and saying it's his first in a long time.

Then I looked again, and realized it's a post from a couple months ago...same cookie...haha.
Posted 4/4/2015 10:43 PM (GMT 0)
I dream of the day when I can have a cookie again. A nice warm, gooey, chocolate chip cookie. That and a Reese Cup. *Sigh*
Posted 4/4/2015 10:47 PM (GMT 0)
I'm having an angel food cake today...baked it for my son's birthday!

It is gluten free (he has celiac) but it's definitely not sugar free, or dairy free.


Since, the diet's gone out the window, I may as well indulge and have two pieces. May as well 'go big'...haha.
Posted 4/5/2015 4:33 AM (GMT 0)
LOL! How did this post come back up?

Nope I only had the one sugar cookie... Geez I remember that night I tried the mino and tind and I had a pretty powerful neuro herx. My brain actually felt a little on fire.

Hey Lyme me... Mino is like doxy and affects lyme the same except it gets into the brain at least two times better.

As for the sugar cookies... I think I pass now... It feeds the bugs too much.

Gee I have adapted my diet eating only certain things now and it has just become the new norm... It's just become my habit now.
Posted 4/5/2015 5:50 AM (GMT 0)
LP

I don't know how you do it... I was never so disciplined with diet. What is life without a cookie or a piece a chocolate once in a while? Lol

Thank God I don't herx from foods or I'd be seriously depressed.
Posted 4/5/2015 6:04 AM (GMT 0)
Recently my mom sent me to a bakery that makes vegan gluten free deserts to get a cake for a co worker and I couldn't resist. I had two cookies. I was a vegan before getting lyme so I'm used to not being able to eat most foods and deserts available to me but I figured it didn't have gluten or dairy so it wouldn't be as bad, but it was too sugary and I didn't really like it. I could see how addicting sugar is. I had a few bites but had to eat two even though I didn't like it that much. I do eat dark chocolate regularly that has some added sugar but it's 80 percent, organic and has about 3g of sugar in a serving.
Posted 4/5/2015 6:14 AM (GMT 0)
Simela! It was the combination of eating a sugar cookie and then 4 hours later taking the abx that causes the lyme to herx! Not really the sugar cookie itself.

The sugar cookie made me dizzy though
Posted 4/5/2015 2:58 PM (GMT 0)
Girlie I will go get blood work in a few weeks before my next appt. I don't notice any pain in my liver area like I've read that some have gotten from the Rifampin. Glad it is killing off the bugs big time though. Hate I can't have a margarita on occasion but I guess it's been way to cold.

Yes, I thought LP had the second cookie also, lol. Wish I could be so devoted to a good diet. I went down to 118 pounds when I quit sugar, dairy, gluten, felt like I wasn't getting enough food in me. How is your weight not eating the bad stuff? Do you consume coffee?
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