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Posted 1/27/2015 6:19 PM (GMT 0)
I need advice from your experience about a good quality probiotic to take with antibiotics or to take on a daily basis as maintenance.

Also, if you can let me know where do buy it and when is the best time to take it (like before, after meals, without food or with,...etc).

Also, how much is its price and how long does it last?

thx a lot for the help
Posted 1/27/2015 6:26 PM (GMT 0)
Try sauer kraut--it don't remember how it's spelled exactly. It has more strains than any other probiotic--most probiotics have up to 4-5 strains. That's the reason they don't work well. I am making some now. Probably will be done tomorrow.
Posted 1/27/2015 6:27 PM (GMT 0)
Personally, I prefer kefir. It's pretty widely available now, generally costs around $3 - $4 a bottle. I use lots of it right now (having some intestinal issues as usual for me) and use 2 bottles a week.

Kefir has many strains of good bacteria, and good yeasts to help.

Always take whatever types of probiotics that you take at least 2 hours away from any abx or herbs that have antibacterial or antimicrobial actions.
Posted 1/27/2015 6:30 PM (GMT 0)

Simela1 said...
Try sauer kraut--it don't remember how it's spelled exactly. It has more strains than any other probiotic--most probiotics have up to 4-5 strains. That's the reason they don't work well. I am making some now. Probably will be done tomorrow.

thx but what is that ? where to find it and buy it ? we have to make it ???
Posted 1/27/2015 6:36 PM (GMT 0)

Traveler said...
Personally, I prefer kefir. It's pretty widely available now, generally costs around $3 - $4 a bottle. I use lots of it right now (having some intestinal issues as usual for me) and use 2 bottles a week.

Kefir has many strains of good bacteria, and good yeasts to help.

Always take whatever types of probiotics that you take at least 2 hours away from any abx or herbs that have antibacterial or antimicrobial actions.

thx a lot but where can I find this ? and how it is taken ? drink ?? which section of grocery store ? which grocery store, walmart ?
Posted 1/27/2015 6:36 PM (GMT 0)
Abe: It's in all of the groceries stores, maybe not the little ones but the supermarket. It is cabbage that has been fermented.

Trav: Yes, I like (love) kefir, and that was enough for me thanks to you, when I was on treatement, but my son's stomach is still in bad shape even with kefir. He is using a probiotic and I will have to try to get him take the sauer kraut too. abenewhere1 seems to need something potent, from the tone of his/her writing.
Posted 1/27/2015 6:47 PM (GMT 0)
yeah I need pills forms ? but I also wanna know more about the kefir and where to buy it from ? can I find it at walmart and which section ?

also , if u know of any good brand for pills probiotics (if that what u mean by potent) ?
Posted 1/27/2015 6:53 PM (GMT 0)
potent=strong

I don't know of any pills. Maybe others can help. I was treated 5 yrs ago and I used kefir, thanks to Trav. But like I said, kefir and probiotics together didn't help my son. So now I am making the kraut. You can buy kefir at the supermarket. Maybe walmart has it too. It is probably in the yogurt section because that is what it tastes like. It is sort of a liquid yogurt in a plastic bottle. my husband does the shopping and he buys it from Giant, our supermarket. I am looking at the bottle and it says:

"Lifeway, lowfat Kefir cultured lowfat milk smoothie probiotic plain unsweetened 99% lactose free"

DOn't get the flavored ones because they have sugar in it or at least check the label before you decide. We get the plain one. They have strawberry as well and husband bought that one, but when I looked at the label the plain one has 12 g of sugar per 1 cup serving, and the strawberry has 20g.

Post Edited (Simela1) : 1/27/2015 11:59:19 AM (GMT-7)

Posted 1/27/2015 6:56 PM (GMT 0)

Simela1 said...
potent=strong

I don't know of any pills. Maybe others can help. I was treated 5 yrs ago and I used kefir, thanks to Trav. But like I said, kefir and probiotics together didn't help my son. So now I am making the kraut. You can buy kefir at the supermarket. Maybe walmart has it too. It is probably in the yogurt section because that is what it tastes like. It is sort of a liquid yogurt in a plastic liquid bottle. DOn't get the flavored ones because they have sugar in it or at least check the label before you decide.

thank u so much for the help..sorry didn't know potent=strong(i am not native english speaker)
anyway, what probiotic ur son is on ?
Posted 1/27/2015 6:59 PM (GMT 0)
It is good to buy the pill form of probiotics from a place that sells it from the fridge (it keeps better when chilled). You are looking for one that contains many different strains of probiotics, they are listed on the side. It doesn't have to be an expensive kind (some of them are super over-priced). I take a brand called Primadophilus.

Take it two hours after each of your doses of antibiotics. The idea is that antibiotic will kill your gut flora so then you replace it as soon as the antibiotic is out of your system.

Sorry, can't help you with finding it at Walmart. If you have a health food store near you, that would probably be a better bet.

I have had a good deal of luck with using several different kinds of probiotics and kind of rotating them. Kefir, fermented vegetables like sauerkraut, kombucha, are all really good. You can get these in health food stores or other good grocery stores. They are in the dairy or organic sections.

You can make your fermented veggies, kefir and kombucha at home. If you do a google search you will find lots of sites that tell you how to do it. It takes practice, but it is worth it.

Good luck!
Posted 1/27/2015 7:23 PM (GMT 0)
I bought the hyberbiotics pro kids for my son but they make it for grown ups too. It helped him. He was in terrible shape and the kefir wasn't enough. He felt like his gut was shred into pieces. He takes 1 hyperbiotic pro kids probiotic every day. If his pain doesn't go away, he takes another. At most, 2 a day. He is much better now and he doesn't take it every day anymore, but maybe every other day. But he is not on any prescibed abx right now. He only takes propolis and it doesn't mess his gut as much as amoxicillin did.
Posted 1/27/2015 7:55 PM (GMT 0)
I use VSL #3. This is so potent. You can also buy this brand on Amazon. Always use the probiotics that need to be frigerated.


http://www.vsl3.com
Posted 1/27/2015 8:36 PM (GMT 0)
I found Kefir at our local Meijer.  It is in with the yogurt, ours is on the top shelf and comes in several flavors, from berry, mango to plain.  I mix it with my greens and it makes a great smoothie.  It has natural bubbles in it, which I miss so much after giving up pop.

Apparently you aren't from Pennsylvania if you don't know what Saurkraut is!  LOL!  It is a staple of Pennsylvania Dutch heritage.  It has been described for you, but I will say it is good luck to eat it with a pork roast on New Year's day.  So if you are looking for a way to eat it, with pork in a crockpot is great!

Posted 1/27/2015 8:42 PM (GMT 0)
ResoluteES,
are you in PA?

the polish eat the saurKraut with their sausage, too. I forgot what they call that Polish Sausage! So I'm sure husband will eat it with something!

We eat it in stuffed cabbage. It is quite good! Husband was born in PA, but he likes the stuffed cabbage which is what some people cook for Christmas. Oh, so much to do with the saurkraut! My grandma and mom are making it but they cut the cabbage in 4 pieces and put it in like that. So it was kind of confusing for me to start making it, because I never saw them making it, I just ate it LOL
Posted 1/27/2015 8:48 PM (GMT 0)
With the Kefir, I would watch the sugar. I LOVE Kefir, but if you drink 4 cups a day... watch all that sugar. Trav makes her own, so it's different. There are diets that don't tolerate that much sugar.
Posted 1/27/2015 10:44 PM (GMT 0)
Or you can buy the unflavored, unsweetened version of kefir.

And yes, it's sold at many Walmarts or grocery stores, usually near the milk/yogurt area.

I have also used the refrigerated probiotics, but I used them at the same time as the kefir because I needed the extra and it worked well!
Posted 1/28/2015 7:09 AM (GMT 0)
Trav:

I did buy the unsweetened version and it still has 12 g of sugar per one cup serving.
Posted 1/28/2015 5:28 PM (GMT 0)
This is a decision each of us has to make on probiotics, but I still choose to use kefir.

Milk alone has 12 - 13 grams of sugar in it naturally. The sugar/lactose (which is "milk sugar") are what the kefir 'feeds' off of to transform it into that yummy probiotic dense food.

I'm very lactose intolerant - and sugar intolerant, by the way - it gives me horridly strong intestinal cramps, bloating and more - so I have a very large incentive to avoid it, yet I need to use kefir to keep my innerds running smoothly, especially while fighting these infections.

My current doc thought the same thing, and foolish me, I went along with her until I was about 3 months into my treatment. By then I was in trouble and was having a bunch of intestinal issues starting. I didn't ask her, I just did what I knew I needed to do and had to educate her later - did I mention she wasn't real happy about that? devil But I know what my body needs and I should have done what I knew to be right, right from the start. Lesson learned.....again.
Posted 1/28/2015 7:23 PM (GMT 0)
Can you buy the store bought sauerkraut in a can? Or does it have to be home made?
Posted 1/28/2015 10:27 PM (GMT 0)
I think store bought canned sauerkraut that is not refrigerated has been heated and most of the probiotics destroyed.

Here is a good article explaining the benefits of sauerkraut and offers a recipe for homemade:
http://bottomlinehealth.com/sauerkraut-the-most-misunderstood-health-food/

Also, here is a recipe for homemade kombucha tea:
http://myhealthygreenfamily.com/blog/wordpress/how-to-make-kombucha-a-probiotic-fermented-tea/

I have had this hot pink kraut that my local vegan restaurant sells as "kim chee" and it is spicy but really good on salads. I found this recipe and I have it on my list to try to make at home. You will need to scroll halfway down the page to find it.
http://commonsensehome.com/how-to-make-sauerkraut/
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