Need advice on pulsing herbs..

Hey! I need a little help, if you don't mind.. regarding pulsing, treating multiple infections at once. Would really appreciate it.

To begin, I've been using Cowden's protocol for a couple months now (Samento, Banderol, Cumanda, as well as detox tinctures, Serrapeptase, etc). I felt really well, in the beginning. There was a lot of herxing - much less than I expected, but, still, signs of the medicines working. But, after a month or so, I started having these flares, symptoms that I'd call "bad" symptoms, signs of infection. Definitely not what I had come to define as herxing - THOSE symptoms seemed to be diminishing. I'd take the tinctures, not even really feel anything.

So.. I thought maybe it's a problem with coinfections? Added in houttuynia - herxed somewhat, but not as much as others have reported. People say it's really strong, effective, when dealing with Bartonella. Correct? I'm going to continue taking it, but not sure how effective it is for me/if I'm even dealing with Bart.

I've gotten the CSA formula for Babs, but haven't tried it yet.

So, anyway, a couple weeks or so ago, I figured I'd try out a couple of products from a different protocol, and started herxing pretty well off of them. But, just as before, after a few days of using these products, the herxes started to diminish. Not as many "bad" symptoms yet, but still, less herxing.

So, I thought, let's go back to the old tinctures, see how I feel, and I herxed.

Because of this, I'm thinking maybe I'm one of the people that needs to be pulsing.

Now, I've been told that one doesn't necessarily have to be herxing in order to heal. In fact, it's best to avoid it. But, for me, I feel it's a bit too early for me not to be experiencing herxes. I've been sick for 7 years, and my detoxing, while decent, is nowhere near up to par with what I've heard of some of you doing, so there's no way I'm flushing my system out enough to avoid herxing entirely.

I want to be able to pulse, but I don't want to not take one set of tinctures for too long, allowing whatever infections they target to stay alive - because, yes, I'm thinking that these different products are affecting different strains of something (Lyme, whatever).

I've seen people mention, say, taking something for 3 days, day and a half off, then another product for 3 days, or 12 days, 1.5 off, then 12 days on another product. But.. that seems too long in between, to me, even just the 3 days. I feel like whatever damage I'd be doing in those 3 days would be counteracted by me not taking the medicines for the next.. 4 days.

At the same time, I want to be taking the tinctures long enough to be doing damage before switching to the next set of tinctures. Would 2 days on one, then 2 days on another be too little?


This is kind of rushed, cluttered, I know. Sorry.

Again, help's much appreciated.

Thanks, guys!

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Antonio, first of all, I am impressed with your knowledge of the type of herbs that work for each bacteria. As far as your concern about herxing, I would not be so concerned about it because herxing is the symptoms that we feel whenever our bodies get so toxic from the bacteria die-off that we feel intoxicated. In your case it seems that your body is doing a great job of getting rid of the toxins where you don't herx much.

If you took care of your body physically and ate healthy before the infection, your body and immune system are in far better shape to combat the bacteria than those who drank alcohol, did drugs, ate nothing but junk food and had poor sleeping habits before getting infected. And lets not forget about our genes, they play a key part in how well we heal. That is why some people herx less and heal faster than others.

Regarding how many days to do for each protocol, I recommend a week at least for each. it takes time for it to build up in the blood in enough quantities to be effective. You may also want to consider mixing the two protocols if your body can tolerate it. Bacteria have efflux pumps and some have double walls so the idea is to overwhelm their defense mechanisms by the amount and type of chemicals that we throw at it, specially if some of what you are taking eats away and weakens their biofilm.

Lyme, Bartonella, and Babesia are slow growers so they will not replicate as fast in a few days equal to the kill-off that you do when you take herbs.

When the bacteria sense a threat, they dig themselves into the tissue, muscle or hide inside blood cells where they are protected from our immune system and most abx (natural and synthetic). Once they sense that the threat is gone they come out and we begin to feel the symptoms again.

This is where pulsing is effective. It entices the bacteria to come out from hiding (thus vulnerable) by making them believe that there is no threat. You then hit them again and bring their numbers down . You keep doing this (pulsing) until you end up killing more bacteria during each pulse than the amount that replicates during each pulse. If you don't pulse, the bacteria go into hiding, your immune system goes idle because it has nothing to kill (that it can get to) and even though you feel better, your bacterial load is still high.



I have been infected for three years and it wasn't until I started pulsing that I began to notice a real difference in my health. Last time I went three weeks in between pulses before I felt symptoms again.

As far a protocols, you seem to know what you are doing so keep doing what you are doing. don't concern yourself with herxes so much. You have a good plan by pulsing so just stick to it. Again, our bacteria replicate slowly so you are not getting more infected each time you pulse.