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Posted 5/31/2015 7:36 PM (GMT 0)
Im 10 days into my antibiotic and three days ago Ive started herxing. My symptom before my lyme diagnoses was balance issues with being lighted headed as well at times. Well my balance symptom is the worse it has ever been and I even ended up down at the ER yesterday because of not being about to walk well + nauseous. They told me it is probably toxin die off and continue with my medication. Which is doxy 100mg x2 per day for 21 days. I know everyone says that is not nearly enough or strong enough antibiotics but its what im going with because its what I got. I don't have money for the states right now to spend in a LLMD so Im trying to be hopeful in this course of medication from my doctor. This is my first time on meds for this as I just got my positive lyme test a week and a half ago.

Im already drinking tons of lemon water to detox but im wondering about baths.

Am I going to feel even worse if I have one . if it makes you feel worse then why do it in the first place
Posted 5/31/2015 8:06 PM (GMT 0)
My symptoms have flared worse then they ever have been now that I am on medication.

Post Edited (JessicaMommy) : 6/4/2015 5:51:29 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 5/31/2015 9:24 PM (GMT 0)
JessicaMommy - I believe most people feel better from the detox baths...but sometimes starting slowly, and gradually increasing is the best approach.

So, make sure they're not too hot. Start off with a quarter of the epsom salts and if you're using hydrogen peroxide - start with a couple Tbsps.
Only stay in for maybe two or three minutes.

If that doesn't produce symptoms, then gradually increase the salts, hydrogen peroxide and time you spend in the bath.

I never stay in longer than 10 minutes - or else I'm stiff.

I have on occasion had two baths in one day...because it made me feel better each time, but it didn't last long enough.
Posted 5/31/2015 9:35 PM (GMT 0)
You should also look into dry skin brushing, as it not only lifts up the dead skin, but helps to circulate the lymph fluid as well.

There's oil pulling - 2 or 3 tsp of coconut oil in your mouth and swish it around like mouthwash for 10 minutes - then spit it out in the trash because it solidifies at a fairly high temperature (76 degrees/24.4 C).

You can also use binders like activated charcoal, although binders must be kept 2 hours away from food, meds and supplements, so you have to have a 4 hour time period where you aren't eating or taking any meds or supplements. But, they are very effective.

There are even more detox suggestions in the "New to Lyme? Start here!" thread that you can go over as well.

And although the 200 mgs a day isn't enough to kill the bacteria and make you heal, with the herxing you have going on, you don't need to be on a higher dose just yet anyway. And, once the herxing stops, you can pick out a herbal protocol that you can do along side of the Doxy (most of the herbal protocols that we talk about on this forum can be used with abx), so that you can actually heal from these infections.

Hang in there, increase your detoxing, and let us know how you are doing!!
Posted 5/31/2015 10:31 PM (GMT 0)
I always feel better after detox baths, mostly because my muscles are always tight and the heat of the bath loosens them up. Just make sure you do not make the water too hot (I used to do that and I felt so weak and shaky afterwards. Also, keep a water bottle next to the tub. I drink so much while in the bath, if I don't I also get weak and shaky. I just dump two large handfuls of Epsom salts in the bath, but the stopper on the drain (I don't actually know what it is called) doesn't work so I just have a towel blocking it, so i am pretty sure some of the Epsom salts are going down the drain. I usually soak in the bath for about an hour. I used to get really bored so I now bring a book or magazine with me. Hope this helps.
Posted 5/31/2015 11:02 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks everyone. My balance has always been my main issue and pretty much only symptom besides fatigue and tingling up my spine... but it is the worst for me. My balance problems have caused me so much anxiety over the past 5 years and having my balance- dizziness act up SO bad from this herxing, is so hard to deal with.

I will try having the bath with Epsom salts. I would like to stay in there 20 mins or so... or would this be asking for trouble? I don't see how a nice bath with Epsom salts could cause me to feel horrible? (but I guess im just learning)

What is a herbal protocol?

Thanks.
Posted 5/31/2015 11:16 PM (GMT 0)
Do you have someone who will be there just in case? The only trouble I have ever had was when I accidentally put the water too hot and I needed my mom to help me out of the bath because I was so weak and shaky. So, for the first time I would make sure someone is at least in the house, just in case. But other than that I don't think you should have a problem. I have never had a problem other than the one I just described and that is easily avoidable. Definitely make sure you keep water with you though. The Epsom salt baths make me extremely thirsty and if I don't have water with me, then a little dehydrated.
Posted 5/31/2015 11:42 PM (GMT 0)

JessicaMommy said...

I will try having the bath with Epsom salts. I would like to stay in there 20 mins or so... or would this be asking for trouble? I don't see how a nice bath with Epsom salts could cause me to feel horrible? (but I guess im just learning)

What is a herbal protocol?

Thanks.

Staying in a detox soak like that can release more toxins from your tissues and organs and move them into the blood stream faster than your body can comfortable move out without causing you to herx. I would suggest that your first few detox soak should only last 10 minutes at most. i have impaired detoxing pathways and the most I could ever stay in a detox bath was 7 minutes or I would be herxing horribly for the next 3 days or more. By starting off very slowly, you are likely to avoid setting yourself up for herxing just from detoxing. An hour in a detox bath is a really long time and most people shouldn't be staying in that long, although it seems to be safe for a few.

An herbal protocol that we talk about here is one that is aimed at healing a person of these infections using only herbs. I used only herbal protocols to heal from these infections because I couldn't tolerate the abx. They are very potent and are more than strong enough to work even on these infections. Please feel free to ask any questions you wish about herbal protocols even if you don't want to use them now. You need to know that you have options.
Posted 5/31/2015 11:44 PM (GMT 0)
Ok, thanks twinmkm. I'm thinking I will be ok because before I got diagnosed with Lyme Disease a week and a half ago I always have done super hot baths. And also going in a hot tub at the cottage. (before I knew about Lyme) However, now I know why I had a couple bad feelings after some of my hot baths. I remember a few times having to lay on my bed right after my bath for 20 mins because I felt horrible.
Posted 5/31/2015 11:53 PM (GMT 0)

Traveler said...

JessicaMommy said...

I will try having the bath with Epsom salts. I would like to stay in there 20 mins or so... or would this be asking for trouble? I don't see how a nice bath with Epsom salts could cause me to feel horrible? (but I guess im just learning)

What is a herbal protocol?

Thanks.

Staying in a detox soak like that can release more toxins from your tissues and organs and move them into the blood stream faster than your body can comfortable move out without causing you to herx. I would suggest that your first few detox soak should only last 10 minutes at most. i have impaired detoxing pathways and the most I could ever stay in a detox bath was 7 minutes or I would be herxing horribly for the next 3 days or more. By starting off very slowly, you are likely to avoid setting yourself up for herxing just from detoxing. An hour in a detox bath is a really long time and most people shouldn't be staying in that long, although it seems to be safe for a few.

An herbal protocol that we talk about here is one that is aimed at healing a person of these infections using only herbs. I used only herbal protocols to heal from these infections because I couldn't tolerate the abx. They are very potent and are more than strong enough to work even on these infections. Please feel free to ask any questions you wish about herbal protocols even if you don't want to use them now. You need to know that you have options.

Wow Traveller, That is amazing you were able to heal just from herbs alone and no antibiotics. That may be the route I need to go if my doctors suggestions do not work at curing me from this..

Is it just herbs etc you buy from grocery stores and local Health stores? Or am I totally wrong? eyes
Posted 5/31/2015 11:56 PM (GMT 0)
How much Epsom salts should I add to my first bath? Ill stay in 10 minutes. Keep in mind I'm already herxing... I want to see if this helps at all.
Posted 5/31/2015 11:56 PM (GMT 0)
Well, I can't buy them from the grocery stores where I live! But the health food stores and online herbal stores.

There are a few that are frequently talked about on here and we can direct you to them when you are ready to look into them. Many here use a herbal protocol alone or along side of their abx protocols to get better results, so it's something you can think on for a bit and let us know when you are ready to look into it!!
Posted 6/1/2015 12:07 AM (GMT 0)
Thank you Traveler. Good to know.
Posted 6/1/2015 12:35 AM (GMT 0)
I used about 2 cups of Epsom salt in my bath the few times I could tolerate them.
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