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Posted 6/14/2015 3:26 PM (GMT 0)
Hi guys, just wondering if anyone with Lyme and Co has perfect gut health [no frequent gurgling, no pain, normal stools]?

I haven't even started treating my Lyme and Co yet because I'm still trying to repair my gut health. Just want to make sure its not the Lyme and Co [and therefore lowered immune system] that is making repairing my gut impossible and that there are people out there with active infections but good [or at least not bad] gut health.

Thanks
Posted 6/14/2015 4:12 PM (GMT 0)
My gut health is good - prior to and during treatment.

I still have not taken anything for yeast.

I don't have tummy aches, or diarrhea.

When I was on Ceftin coupled with tinidazole (pulsing), I started to get looser bowel movements...now that I'm off them, everything is fine again.

I'm sure there are lots of other people with good gut health that will chime in.
Posted 6/14/2015 6:50 PM (GMT 0)
Good question,

I thought I had good gut health too.....I mean I ate healthy, mostly veggies, lean meats, nuts, fruits and whole grains... But I cheated here and there thinking I was fine... Ha! Guess not....

I started a candida diet about a week ago and immediately felt tingling in my feet and got Bart streaks after my bath...

I'm figuring this all out by chance.....
Posted 6/14/2015 7:24 PM (GMT 0)
I think it's great you are working on your gut health first.
I wish I worked on mine before starting treatment.
Posted 6/14/2015 7:55 PM (GMT 0)
Best of luck, there was no hope for me for good gut health until I treated Lyme and company. But there are those - like Girlie that have good gut health despite having Lyme.
Posted 6/15/2015 1:54 AM (GMT 0)
My gut symptoms are my worst symptoms and just started feeling a marginally better after a month of treatment. I have been able to sneak in some garlic, onions and corn from time to time, before these would have caused major problems for days! I have done pretty much every probiotic and diet there is for gut health and nothing helped even antibiotics for SIBO. The only thing that has ever made any difference are antibiotics that target Lyme. I think you will find that everybody is a little different, you really never know. I would consider the fact that your gut problems may be due to Lyme and there is no benefit with waiting before starting treatment. In fact the Lyme could be doing more damage in the mean time. I don't see how it would hurt to stick to a good gut healthy diet, who wouldn't benefit from that? it really does boil down to what is causing your symptoms.
Posted 6/15/2015 2:09 AM (GMT 0)
ram… Unfortunately, I am not one of those people who had good gut health… but I think it's great that you are working on it first. I did that and made good progress but started lyme & co treatment and I'm struggling a bit. Backed way off tx for a couple of months to get back on track…

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Posted 6/15/2015 2:25 AM (GMT 0)
Thx for the replies. Thats what Im trying to figure out. Can I fix my gut without fixing Lyme and Co? Is my immune system so stressed out that my gut cannot repair itself??

My main symptoms are frequent gurgling and popping sounds, often I can feel them and stuff swishing around in my gut. Especially when I lie down at night. Also broken up stools, often multiple times in a day.

Probiotics haven't helped, I've tried many brands and high doses...kind of a catch 22 because I want to try Lyme antibiotics...

Post Edited (ram2390) : 6/14/2015 8:31:44 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 6/15/2015 9:36 AM (GMT 0)
My guess is that no one with Lyme has good gut health. If they did, their immune system could fight off Lyme. The gut health for the non-Lyme Americans is terrible. The acidity of the foods we eat is way too low and that makes a GI flora conducive to poor health. Eating correctly can provide an immune system that keeps you from getting sick (at least it has for me and I'm around a lot of sick people). I no longer get the colds, the flu, or any other ailments when I eat correctly.
Posted 6/15/2015 3:35 PM (GMT 0)
I have not suffered any gi or gut problems, before or while having Lyme.

I have always been the proverbial dustbin. Not that I don't try to eat healthy (more so now), but I can't say that anything I have ever eaten (inc abx lol) has ever upset my stomach.

My sister suffers gut problems, has for years, but she doesn't have lyme.
Posted 6/15/2015 6:49 PM (GMT 0)
So GH - you say no one with lyme has good gut health. So, if I don't have the usual symptoms, I should be treating as if I have poor gut health anyway?

I don't have stomach aches, or indigestion, my bowel movements are normal (except when I'm on Tinidazole - they are a little loose, but go back to normal a few days after stopping Tini)

I don't have a white tongue or intense cravings for sugar or bread products.
Posted 6/15/2015 6:57 PM (GMT 0)
Girlie...I think you can probably assume you have good gut health (unless you had reasons to believe).

Not everybody is the same, and I think it's wrong to make blanket statements like "nobody with lyme has good gut health".

I also think it's completely false to say if someone had good gut health, their immune system could have fought off Lyme. I had perfect gut health and was in perfect health condition my entire life basically, and then I suddenly was incredibly sick with Lyme. I had good gut health, and I couldn't fight off Lyme. That theory doesn't make sense to me whatsoever.
Posted 6/15/2015 7:39 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks RG - well when I read that I start to question - hmm maybe my gut health isn't good - even though I don't have obvious symptoms.

This disease has me questioning things everyday - my protocol, my adrenals, thyroid, my diet, my supplements, my gut health, etc.

It's one nasty illness!!

I was healthy prior to lyme, too.
Posted 6/16/2015 10:31 AM (GMT 0)
My dd had gut issues from the beginning. Her Lyme started with nausea and abdominal pain - a perpetual stomach ache basically. We started treatment right away and she's 3 weeks into treatment she still has the nausea and pain but she now has times without nausea and pain. The abx irritate it even more so we know for about 2 hours after she takes her pills she will have nausea and pain but she has started to have more and more time feeling "normal". She also only had Lyme for a short time before we started treatment.
Posted 6/16/2015 10:45 AM (GMT 0)
My gut is horrible. One of my first symptoms was extreme gurgling and chronic gas. I have tried everything over the years to repair it. I still have problems. The issues now are more like IBS symptoms.
Posted 6/16/2015 10:55 AM (GMT 0)
For gut health I would use a test called GI Effect by Genova.
That is a great place to start then you aren't guessing. A good gut is good immune system and you actually may not know if your gut is messed up.

FYI-I needed antiparasite meds for gut health-they helped.
My final piece for gut health was fixing my dental-surprised me but fixed my gut
Posted 6/16/2015 3:07 PM (GMT 0)

RunnerGirl82 said...
Girlie...I think you can probably assume you have good gut health (unless you had reasons to believe).

Not everybody is the same, and I think it's wrong to make blanket statements like "nobody with lyme has good gut health".

I also think it's completely false to say if someone had good gut health, their immune system could have fought off Lyme. I had perfect gut health and was in perfect health condition my entire life basically, and then I suddenly was incredibly sick with Lyme. I had good gut health, and I couldn't fight off Lyme. That theory doesn't make sense to me whatsoever.

Agreed.
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