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Posted 7/17/2015 3:34 AM (GMT 0)
Does this happen to anyone else? I don't think I am low in electrolytes. I eat plenty of fruits/veggies and drink plenty of water. I eat 100% whole foods diet. I stopped the samento for a couple of days just to see how I felt and I didn't have any leg cramping, but then I started it again today and my legs are cramping up. They only cramp when I bend my knees right at the end of the muscle of my quad. I am at 20 drops of Samento per day, but I noticed I had this when I was at 10 drops per day. Any thoughts?
Posted 7/17/2015 5:14 AM (GMT 0)
I'm on an herbal Lyme tincture and I get cramps in calves, arches of feet, and my jaw when I yawn. I thought my cramps were from metals chelation=detox!
Posted 7/17/2015 1:24 PM (GMT 0)
The samento itself isn't causing it, it's a herx.
Posted 7/17/2015 6:43 PM (GMT 0)
Has his happened to you?

I am just worried it's depleting minerals. I am able to stay fairly active. I lift weights three times a week and I know it's not muscle soreness from working our. My legs actually cramp up, but it doesn't seemt to improve much with magnesium oil or potassium supplements.

I am going to keep it at 20 drops for a week and see if it gets better, but if it doesn't are there any other herbs that treat lyme? I want to make sure I have a fair amount of options.
Posted 7/17/2015 8:24 PM (GMT 0)
Yes I am taking magnesium oil. I even rubbed in into the spots and no effect.

I did notice that when I took Burbur the cramping subsided. It took a few hours though.
Posted 7/17/2015 8:27 PM (GMT 0)
Muscle cramps are a very common symptom of Lyme disease. Whats most likely happening is like Sarah suggested, it's a herx, and not from the samento.
Posted 7/17/2015 8:33 PM (GMT 0)
The thing is though I never really had muscle cramping from my lyme. The only thing I really have is fatigue and brain fog. I did have two tieters on my western blot though. 41 IgG and 23 IgM. From what I understand I have lyme. I was tested for h pylori and all STD's which came back negative. I don't think I have a bad case of lyme by any means. I don't have the money for a LLMD right now though. I do feel better on Samento though mentally, but I also started a probiotic called Presript Assist that is helping a lot as well.
Posted 7/17/2015 8:37 PM (GMT 0)
Herxing can mean an increase in current symptoms or new symptoms show up.

And yes, Band 23 is specific for Lyme disease. You can't be positive on that band without having Lyme.

So the only thing you are taking is samento? You really need to at least add in banderol or find a complete protocol like Buhner's to follow.
Posted 7/18/2015 12:55 AM (GMT 0)
Oh I am, I am taking things one by one. I am going to go up to 30 drops of samento then add in the banderol. I think that's a cautious approach in order to weed out whats causing what.
Posted 7/19/2015 5:39 PM (GMT 0)
Sorry I'm so late in answering - I caught a 24 hour bug and was sick in bed.

I agree that you are approaching this in a slow manner and that's the best way!! Good for you.

Let us know how we can be of help!!
Posted 7/20/2015 2:46 AM (GMT 0)
Thanks Traveler! I'm glad to be part of a community that doesn't seem aggravated over questions. I have read a few posts about leg cramping on here with samento, they were from a few years ago though.

The samento for sure causes leg cramping, although it has seemed to die down a bit since I have stayed at the 20 drops for a few days. I am going to wait another 3 days then add 5 more drops.

One more question though, have you ever heard of Samento causing constipation? I seem to be having some issues, but I am also on a new probiotic so I cannot say if it is the Samento or not. I sure hope not.
Posted 7/20/2015 5:46 PM (GMT 0)
As was suggested before, if you are experiencing new or increased symptoms while on samento, it is probably a herx reaction.
Posted 7/20/2015 6:55 PM (GMT 0)
Just having Lyme can cause a person to be constipated, so as Sarah said, it could easily be part of the herx.


A herx really is defined as a worsening or new symptoms when treatment is started, or doses are ramped up - or even by detoxing sometimes, because we can accidentally release so many toxins from the tissues/organs (where they are stored) and the dump into our blood stream so fast, that it causes a sudden increase in symptoms.
Posted 7/20/2015 11:23 PM (GMT 0)
My legs have been cramping as well now that I'm back on it along with the Kyolic. Definitely should be a herx, that is why I take 560mg of Activated Charcoal twice a day for detoxing. It helps a lot. I've been on Samento for four years and have never experienced constipation.
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