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Posted 7/28/2015 10:32 PM (GMT 0)
I'm basically overhauling my treatment right now since I'm down to a few annoying PNS symptoms.

That said, I learned in Buhner's book that Cat's Claw w/TOA works better for nerve issues vs. TOA-free products like Samento.

I've been taking 30 drops Samento BID since February.

Is anyone able to advise me on what an equivalent dose of Cat's Claw might be?

Or, should I start with one capsule of Cat's Claw for 4-7 days and slowly increase?

Of course, if I'm totally off with these ideas, would someone please set me straight?

Thanks!
Posted 7/28/2015 11:15 PM (GMT 0)
I don't know if you need to go back to minimum dose when you switch over. I wouldn't think so.

I'm curious what others opinions are.
Posted 7/28/2015 11:53 PM (GMT 0)
Thanks for asking this question! I am also switching over from Samento to Cats Claw! Will take Buhner's protocol. Thinking of adding it to my recent protocol of colloidal Silver ( ACS 200 ), ACZnano, glutathione. Will add their neuro spray too!

Also taking MC-BAR-1, MC-BB-2, Lumbrokinase, CoQmax CF, Krill oil, Cell Detox, Vit B complex, D3, LDN, calcium, bentonite, OptiCleanse, & plenty of probiotics! Good luck! 😊 🍀
Posted 7/29/2015 12:09 AM (GMT 0)
I would suggest that you may want to back down the current dose a bit, as the whole herb will have different synergies than the TOA free will - meaning it could have more of an impact for you. You can build up as quickly as you can tolerate, but those first few doses could spell trouble if you end up on too high of a dose at first.

Sorry, maybe I'm overly cautious, but it's saved me from having a really hard time! Besides, that's about the only place I'm overly cautious!! LOL! turn
Posted 7/29/2015 1:26 AM (GMT 0)
Such helpful posts - thanks, everyone!

I think I'd do the same thing you did, sayya, if I wanted to do tincture.

I was thinking of switching over to Cat's Claw caps since Buhner recommends whole herbs and I'm seeking them for help with my annoying PNS symptoms.

And, Trav, I was wondering if the differences (synergies, really, as you mentioned) might make a difference.

I still have to order the dang things so that will give me time to figure out a slightly smaller starting dose, etc.

I'm being reminded of why I chose Cowden initially: simplicity ;) Buhner makes sense but I have to use my tired brain.

Thanks for sharing some of yours :)
Posted 7/29/2015 5:48 PM (GMT 0)
All I can tell you is that they do make a difference for me. I do a lot better on 'whole herbs' than I do on many extracts - although I do use some of those as well for specific things.
Posted 7/30/2015 1:31 AM (GMT 0)
So, Trav - how did you titrate up on the Chronic Tonic you took? I remember reading your mention of herxing for 3 wks. and thinking you might have to go back to 1/2 doses.

I'd like to think I can titrate Buhner at a slightly slower pace than I did with Cowden. I'd increase 1 drop per dose....per day. One I got up to 10 drops, I'd increase by 2 drops until finally up to 30. If things were going really well, I'd increase by 5 drops.

Throw in the fact that Cowden always had me titrating 2 herbs at a time, it seems like it will be Christmas before I get to full doses on Buhner's herbs lol
Posted 8/1/2015 3:50 PM (GMT 0)
Oh yeah I did!! LOL! I started off with 1/2 strength tea and only used 1/2 doses - and still herxed pretty hard at the 3 week mark. I herx at the 3 week mark for each of my infections though. That was a pretty rough 3 weeks since I was so sick to begin with!! Ew! I don't even like remembering it!!

You can titrate up just as fast as your body will allow. For me, once I hit the 3 week mark and went through that herx, I could titrate up much quicker!!
Posted 8/1/2015 6:40 PM (GMT 0)
I'm sorry for asking you to remember those tough times, Trav. That's one of the many things I admire about you - the fact that you're willing to help others after you suffered so horribly for such a long time. I would imagine that many people want to totally forget about Lyme once they're healed.

"As your body will allow"....if only we knew what our bodies were going to do ;)
Posted 8/2/2015 1:19 AM (GMT 0)
Ha!! Yep! I sooo wish I had a guide book, owner's manual, something!!! My Mom always told me that even if they made one for people, I wouldn't find my body in there! LOL!

Thank you, but it's not like I can ever forget it. So by helping others get through their worst times in their lives, at least I can feel like it wasn't a complete waste of my life. I do have to say though that I have 2 beautiful adult children and a most wonderful hubby though!! :-)
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