If you don't pulse Artemisinin/Wormwood, will your body block it?

According to Buhner, who is a Lyme literate Master Herbalist, he states:
"It is extremely rare that bacteria develop resistance to herbs. They do, and easily, develop resistance to antibiotics. I discuss this in my Herbal Antibiotics book and in Lost Language of Plants (see bookstore) in even more detail. The resistance rumor is just that, an urban legend. I would highly suggest the use of cryptolepis in the treatment of babesia (see Woodland Essence).


One caveat: artemisinin is an isolated constituent, taken from Artemisia annua. Babesia will NOT develop resistance to Artemisia annua but it may to artemisinin due to the simple nature of the compound. For long term use I DO NOT recommend the use of artemisinin but DO RECOMMEND the use of Artemisia annua whole herb and/or cryptolepis tincture. If artemisinin does not work with 90 days it probably will not work."

The only thing I changed was that I underlined the last paragraph to emphasize it.

buhnerhealinglyme.com/herbs/developing-resistance-to-herbs/

LOL!! I don't know that much, I have LOTS of links and have learned how to research online thanks to 15 yrs of doing research on these infections and the treatment of them and a daughter that researches online for a living!!! I've learned soooo much by just trying to help other research answers, and I bookmark really good articles and websites.

I just realized something - what ram is referring to isn't Babs becoming resistant to the Artemisinin.
Something else can happen - if we take the Artemisinin for too long, our intestines create an enzyme that destroys it, rendering it useless.

How long is too long? The opinion varies from Dr. to Dr.

Dr. MR says 3 days max...but other Dr.'s say it's longer. I've read 7-10 days, and another one said 30 days is fine.

ram - my LLND sent me a bottle - a tincture that contains wormwood...and I won't take it because I am taking Artemisinin 4 days on and 10 off. I don't want that enzyme to develop.

Cr3ative - so Artemesia is the whole herb - which should be okay to take for 2-3 months (you probably already know this ) - the Artemisinin is the active constituent of Artemisia which needs to be pulsed.

It would probably be okay if I took the Wormood (Artemesia) that's in the tincture my Dr, sent me along with the Artwmisinin...but I'm not taking any chances.

I was just re-reading some of Buhner's newer coinfection book that addresses Babesia....and I've also re-read some of the sections in his newer book that addresses Lyme.

Firstly, he is back to recommending Artemisinin (the isolated constituent) in the Babesia protocol...and he recommends taking it continuously for 30 days.

However, when addressing the various herbs that can treat Babesia, he mentions that the whole herb can be effective.

Ironically, in the Materia Medica section on Artemisinin in his newer Lyme book, he mentions the enzyme the intestines form when Artemisinin is introduced. On pg. 387, he says "by day seven the constituent is only present at 24 percent of its one day levels. The isolated constituent is not very effective if taken longer than seven days at a time for parasitical infections. If it doesn't work for Babesia (or whatever) within a few weeks to a month, it is not going to. Pulsing will not help."

And, yes, Artemisinin can also treat Lyme. (let's just add to the confusion lol}

cd3764 said...
I was just re-reading some of Buhner's newer coinfection book that addresses Babesia....and I've also re-read some of the sections in his newer book that addresses Lyme.

Firstly, he is back to recommending Artemisinin (the isolated constituent) in the Babesia protocol...and he recommends taking it continuously for 30 days.

However, when addressing the various herbs that can treat Babesia, he mentions that the whole herb can be effective.

Ironically, in the Materia Medica section on Artemisinin in his newer Lyme book, he mentions the enzyme the intestines form when Artemisinin is introduced. On pg. 387, he says "by day seven the constituent is only present at 24 percent of its one day levels. The isolated constituent is not very effective if taken longer than seven days at a time for parasitical infections. If it doesn't work for Babesia (or whatever) within a few weeks to a month, it is not going to. Pulsing will not help."

And, yes, Artemisinin can also treat Lyme. (let's just add to the confusion lol}

That's interesting. What's also interesting is I see articles touting it's anti-cancer effects.

I know that I have been on it for more than a few weeks to a month(in total)...and I am still herxing...not as strong as originally, though.

I wouldn't take it straight for 30 days, though...better safe than sorry...IMO

www.townsendletter.com/Dec2002/artemisinin1202.htm

www.earthclinic.com/herbs/artemisinin.html

/www.drlam.com/blog/artemisinin-wormwood-from-malaria-to-cancer/405/

Well, if you have no change after 3 months - either you don't have Babesia...or you have it, but the Artemisinin isn't doing anything in your case.

So, I would stop the Art.


You could try some Crytolepis, Sida Acuta, and (dang it, I keep forgetting the third one)

'old' combo was Crypto, SA, and Alchornea Cordifolia.

OH...I believe the third one is Bidens.

I am so stupid. I need to ask you for clarification.
How can I know if Artem is working, as I didn't have any Bab symptoms in the beginning?
I see it like this - drug is working if my symptoms are reduced - but how to know if it is working if I didn't have Babs symptoms in the first place?

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